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Homework Statement



Let K \subset \mathbb{R^n} be compact and U an open subset containing K. Verify that there exists r > 0 such that B_r{u} \subset U for all u \in K.


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Every open cover of compact set has finite subcover.


The Attempt at a Solution



I tried to cover my K with open balls therefore there should be finitely many open balls (because K is compact). If I choose r' = min(r_1,r_2,...,r_n) (r_i being the radius of the ball) then every element in K has that required ball-neighbourhood. Because U is open then B_{r'}{u} \subset U. Is this correct?
 
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That doesn't prove it. Even if you have a finite subcover of open balls, then that subcover might extend beyond U. You need to find a way to make your subcover be subsets of U.

... also, you need the r to work for every u in K, not just a finite subset.

... maybe using open covers is not the answer? You are working in $$\mathbb{R}^n$$
 
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Ok, so my reasoning does not work. How about the fact that since U is open, then every element x \in U has an open ball-neigbourhood B_r{x} \subset U. Then every element in K has that neigbourhood also. Take all these neighbourhoods and then this is an open cover of K. Because K is compact then it has to have finite subcover which has finitely many of these open balls. Then this subcover has to be subset of U and if I take minimum of the r:s, then every element u \in K has that required ball-neighbourhood.

I do not know why \mathbb{R^n} is relevant here.. Am I supposed to use some metric?
 
Take a ball, radius r, centred on k in U. Let x be in this ball. Then the ball, radius r, centred on x may not be in U.

In general, any finite subcover will give you a finite set of balls, but that isn't easily going to show that a ball of radius r centred on any point in K is in U.

Instead, I'd think about K being closed and bounded.
 
I feel I'm completely lost now.. Of cource since K is compact then it is closed and bounded. Because it is bounded then for every u \in K \|u\| \leq M.

I really need some hint now..
 
Here's an outline of a basic proof:

Assume not, then you get a sequence in K and a sequence not in U that get arbitrarily close.

As K is compact, the sequence in K has a subsequence which converges to k in K.

And, it's easy to show that the corresponding subsequence of points not in U also converges to k.

But, as U is open, this is a contradiction (as k has a neighbourhood in U).

Can you do your own formal proof based on that?
 
Well, only difficulty I see in the proof is that how to show the corresponding subsequence of points not in U also converges to k. Of cource if points get arbitarily close, so the distance between points is less than r > 0.. ?
 
I think I got it now.

So let's assume that there exist no such r. Therefore there is sequence (x_n) \subset \mathbb{R^n}\setminus U such that \|{x_n - k_{n_j}}\| < \frac{\epsilon}{2}. Now k_{n_j} is a converging subsequence in K.

Because K is compact there exists subsequence k_{n_j} which converges to some k, so \|{k_{n_j} - k}\| < \frac{\epsilon}{2}

Now consider \|{x_n - k}\| =\|{x_n - k_{n_j} + k_{n_j} - k}\| \leq \|{x_n - k_{n_j}}\| + \|{k_{n_j} - k}\| < \frac{\epsilon}{2} + \frac{\epsilon}{2} = \epsilon

So (x_n) converges too to k. This is impossible, since U is open and therefore every element in U has open ball-neigbourhood that is a subset of U.

Therefore there is such r.

Q.E.D ?
 
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I think I got it now.

So let's assume that there exist no such r. Therefore there is sequence (x_n) \subset \mathbb{R^n}\setminus U such that \|{x_n - k_{n_j}}\| < \frac{\epsilon}{2}. Now k_{n_j} is a converging subsequence in K.

Because K is compact there exists subsequence k_{n_j} which converges to some k, so \|{k_{n_j} - k}\| < \frac{\epsilon}{2}

Now consider \|{x_n - k}\| =\|{x_n - k_{n_j} + k_{n_j} - k}\| \leq \|{x_n - k_{n_j}}\| + \|{k_{n_j} - k}\| < \frac{\epsilon}{2} + \frac{\epsilon}{2} = \epsilon

So (x_n) converges too to k. This is impossible, since U is open and therefore every element in U has open ball-neigbourhood that is a subset of U.

Therefore there is such r.

Q.E.D ?

I don't see how those inequalities with a fixed ##\epsilon## are telling you much. Why don't you start by assuming something like ##\|{x_{n} - k_{n}}\| < \frac{1}{n}##?
 
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You could also try out the Lebesgue's number lemma . But I think you will have to prove that lemma for sake of completion. Of course , proof is available online and using the Lemma almost solves the question. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebesgue's_number_lemma
 
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