Comparing Drag in Still vs. Flowing Water: A Physics Experiment

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This discussion focuses on a physics experiment comparing drag forces on floating models in still versus flowing water. The experiment utilizes a flume tank, where models are connected to a hanging bucket via a frictionless pulley to measure drag force. The consensus is that the drag experienced by an immobile object in flowing water can be assumed to be the same as that in still water, provided that wind resistance is negligible. The use of pennies is clarified as a method to increase the wetted surface area of the models rather than directly measuring drag.

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For a physics experiment, I'm testing the drag experienced by floating models with shape, wetted surface, and velocity as the independent variables.

I placed the models in a flume tank and connected them to a hanging bucket via a string that passed over a frictionless pulley (see attached pictures). By adding or removing pennies, I sought to immobilize the bucket in the air. Once this was achieved, the drag force of each model would then be the mass of bucket + pennies x gravity.

My question is can I safely assume that the drag experienced by an immobile object in flowing water is the same as the drag experienced by the same object moving through still water?

Thanks in advance for any feedback.
 

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BiteTheDust said:
My question is can I safely assume that the drag experienced by an immobile object in flowing water is the same as the drag experienced by the same object moving through still water?

It is safe to assume that as long as you only consider the drag between the object and the water. A moving object would also experience wind resistance. Other than that there is no difference.

One thing I would like to point out is that the pictures seem to show that the pennies are being used to weigh down the object rather than to determine the drag its experiencing.
 


Thanks for the response. I think I'm going to ignore the air resistance since it is relatively insignificant in the total resistance experienced by a moving object in water.

Oh and sorry for the confusion with the pennies. The pennies I am referring to are found in the bucket under the pulley (see the third picture I just uploaded).
In the second picture they are indeed use to weigh down the model and thereby increase the wetted surface of the models.
 

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