Compass , current carrying coil

In summary: Homework Statement::Can a straight, current-carrying coil be used as a compass?Relevant Equations::no equations
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Homework Statement
Can a straight, current-carrying coil be used as a compass?
Relevant Equations
no equations
a. No, because only permanent magnets are suitable to be used as a compass.
b. Yes, but only if the coil doesn't have an iron core.
c. Yes, but only if the coil can turn easily.

I choose (c) , Is that correct ?
 
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It's a trick question. A coil is not straight. :wink:
 
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berkeman said:
It's a trick question. A coil is not straight. :wink:
so answer is a ?
 
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aliserwan said:
so answer is a ?
IMHO, the question cannot be answered well until the problem statement is fixed. Is that really the word-for-word problem statement?
They say "straight" and "coil" in the same sentence?
 
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berkeman said:
IMHO, the question cannot be answered well until the problem statement is fixed. Is that really the word-for-word problem statement?
They say "straight" and "coil" in the same sentence?
 

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Lordy, what a poorly asked question. Whatever. (not your fault)

Why do you think the answer is a)? Sometimes when presented with poor questions, you have to pick the best available answer...
 
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berkeman said:
Lordy, what a poorly asked question. Whatever. (not your fault)

Why do you think the answer is a)? Sometimes when presented with poor questions, you have to pick the best available answer...
A magnetic rod is required when constructing a compass. This can be created by aligning an iron or steel rod with Earth's magnetic field and then tempering or striking it. However, this method produces only a weak magnet so other methods are preferred. For example, a magnetised rod can be created by repeatedly rubbing an iron rod with a magnetic lodestone. This magnetised rod (or magnetic needle) is then placed on a low friction surface to allow it to freely pivot to align itself with the magnetic field. It is then labeled so the user can distinguish the north-pointing from the south-pointing end; in modern convention the north end is typically marked in some way.
 
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aliserwan said:
Homework Statement:: Can a straight, current-carrying coil be used as a compass?
Relevant Equations:: no equations

a. No, because only permanent magnets are suitable to be used as a compass.
b. Yes, but only if the coil doesn't have an iron core.
c. Yes, but only if the coil can turn easily.

I choose (c) , Is that correct ?
I think that in the end, your original answer was correct. They must have been referring to a small-diameter coil that is much longer than its diameter. It would work best if wound on a ferrous rod (that's where the "straight" part comes in, I think), since that maximizes the magnetic field that you get for a given current.

Probably they are referring to a rod-based coil like in the picture below:

https://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j00onJtgBWsEeuf/Ferrite-Core-Magnetic-Bar-Rod-Coil-Inductor.jpg

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aliserwan said:
A magnetic rod is required when constructing a compass. This can be created by aligning an iron or steel rod with Earth's magnetic field and then tempering or striking it. However, this method produces only a weak magnet so other methods are preferred. For example, a magnetised rod can be created by repeatedly rubbing an iron rod with a magnetic lodestone. This magnetised rod (or magnetic needle) is then placed on a low friction surface to allow it to freely pivot to align itself with the magnetic field. It is then labeled so the user can distinguish the north-pointing from the south-pointing end; in modern convention the north end is typically marked in some way.
BTW, this looks like it was copy-pasted from some other source, like maybe Wikipedia? When you do that, you should always provide a link to where you copied it from. That helps to avoid copyright issues, and attribution is the right thing to do anyway.

Just an FYI :wink:
 
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1. What is a compass?

A compass is a navigational tool that uses Earth's magnetic field to determine direction. It typically consists of a magnetized needle that aligns with the Earth's magnetic field, allowing the user to determine north, south, east, and west.

2. How does a compass work?

A compass works by using a magnetized needle that is free to rotate and aligns itself with Earth's magnetic field. The needle is usually marked with the letters N, S, E, and W, indicating the cardinal directions. When the compass is held level, the needle will point towards the Earth's magnetic north pole.

3. What is a current carrying coil?

A current carrying coil is a wire wound into a circular shape that carries an electric current. When a current flows through the coil, it creates a magnetic field around the coil. This magnetic field can interact with other magnetic fields, such as the Earth's, and cause the coil to rotate.

4. How does a current carrying coil affect a compass?

When a current carrying coil is placed near a compass, the magnetic field created by the coil can interfere with the Earth's magnetic field that the compass relies on. This can cause the compass needle to deviate from its normal position and point in a different direction.

5. What are some applications of a current carrying coil and compass?

A current carrying coil and compass can be used in various applications, such as in scientific experiments to study magnetic fields, in navigation systems for ships and aircraft, and in electromagnets used in motors and generators. They can also be used in metal detectors and magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) machines.

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