Composing functions that are conformal

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The problem involves demonstrating that the composition of two conformal analytic functions, \( g(f(z)) \), is also conformal, given that the range of \( f \) is a subset of the domain of \( g \).

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the properties of conformal functions, including the need for non-zero derivatives and analytic behavior. Some suggest using the definition of conformality to show angle preservation, while others question the generality of this approach without specific functions.

Discussion Status

There are multiple lines of reasoning being explored, including the derivative relationship and the implications of the range of \( f \) being within the domain of \( g \). Some participants express uncertainty about proving that \( g'(f(z)) \) is non-zero, while others clarify the distinction between angles between points and angles between curves.

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Participants note the importance of the condition that the range of \( f \) is a subset of the domain of \( g \) in their reasoning. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of this condition on the composition of the functions.

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Homework Statement


let f and g be conformal analytic functions with the range of f a subset of the domain of g. Show that the composition g(f(z)) is also conformal.


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Well I know that if the function is conformal it is 1-1, analytic, and its derivative is non zero. So I'm thinking that I would need to show that since f'(z)≠0 and g'(z)≠0 then (g(f(z))'≠0 and then show that since f and g are analytic, g(f(z)) is also analytic. Then the composition will be both analytic and its derivative will not be zero so it will be conformal. Am I working in the right direction?
 
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That's one way to do it. The other way is to just go straight with the definition and show that g(f(z)) preserves angles
 
Is it possible to show, in general, that g(f(z)) preserves angles? I thought we would have to have actual functions defined for that..
 
How would I prove the derivative part of this? I know that (g(f(z)))'=g'(f(z))*f'(z) and obviously f' is not zero but I'm not sure how to show with certainty that g'(f(z)) is not zero...
 
d2j2003 said:
How would I prove the derivative part of this? I know that (g(f(z)))'=g'(f(z))*f'(z) and obviously f' is not zero but I'm not sure how to show with certainty that g'(f(z)) is not zero...

You are given that "the range of f a subset of the domain of g".
 
d2j2003 said:
Is it possible to show, in general, that g(f(z)) preserves angles? I thought we would have to have actual functions defined for that..

Let P, Q, and R be three points such that angle PQR has measure [itex]\theta[/itex]. Then, since f is conformal, P'=f(P), Q'=f(Q), and R'= f(R) are three points such that angle P'Q'R' has measure [itex]\theta[/itex]. And, since g is conformal, P''= g(P'), Q''= g(Q'), and R''= g(R') are three points such that ...
 
HallsofIvy said:
Let P, Q, and R be three points such that angle PQR has measure [itex]\theta[/itex]. Then, since f is conformal, P'=f(P), Q'=f(Q), and R'= f(R) are three points such that angle P'Q'R' has measure [itex]\theta[/itex]. And, since g is conformal, P''= g(P'), Q''= g(Q'), and R''= g(R') are three points such that ...

Such that the angle P''Q''R'' is θ meaning that the composition is angle preserving. right?
 
Dick said:
You are given that "the range of f a subset of the domain of g".

can we say that since the range f(z) is in the domain of g then g(f(z)) is basically g(z)? and then it is non zero from there?
 
HallsofIvy said:
Let P, Q, and R be three points such that angle PQR has measure [itex]\theta[/itex]. Then, since f is conformal, P'=f(P), Q'=f(Q), and R'= f(R) are three points such that angle P'Q'R' has measure [itex]\theta[/itex]. And, since g is conformal, P''= g(P'), Q''= g(Q'), and R''= g(R') are three points such that ...

f being conformal doesn't imply that. The 'angle preserving' in conformal refers to the angles between intersecting curves. Not to angles between points. That only works if f maps lines to lines.
 
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d2j2003 said:
can we say that since the range f(z) is in the domain of g then g(f(z)) is basically g(z)? and then it is non zero from there?

g' is nonzero on its domain. f(z) is in that domain. I wouldn't say 'g(f(z)) is basically g(z)', that's not very true.
 
  • #11
well when we say g(z), that z includes f(z) since the range of f is a subset of the domain of g... ie. g(z) takes values from its domain, which includes f(z).. right?
 
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d2j2003 said:
well when we say g(z), that z includes f(z) since the range of f is a subset of the domain of g... ie. g(z) takes values from its domain, which includes f(z).. right?

Right. Just say f(z) is in the domain of g. Don't say g(f(z)) is the same as g(z).
 
  • #13
ok, got it. Thanks for your help
 

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