Composition of 2 SHM in same direction

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a particle subjected to two simple harmonic motions (SHM) in the same direction, both having equal amplitudes and frequencies. The objective is to determine the phase difference between the individual motions given that the resultant amplitude equals the individual amplitudes.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the cosine law in the context of SHM and question the correctness of the derived phase difference. There is an exploration of using phasors to visualize the problem.

Discussion Status

There are differing interpretations regarding the application of the cosine law and the phase difference calculation. Some participants affirm the correctness of the original poster's approach, while others suggest reconsidering the cosine law's application and the principal values of the phase difference.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the requirement for the phase difference to be within a specific range and the implications of the cosine function's values.

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Homework Statement

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<Q>A particle is subjected to 2 simple harmonic motions in the same direction having equal amplitudes and equal frequency. If the resultant amplitude is equal to the individual motions,find the phase difference between the individual motions.

Homework Equations


>Let x1 = A1sin(wt) and x2 = A2sin(wt + a)
Then, the resultant motion is also a SHM given by : x = A sin(wt +b)
where A = [(A1)2 +(A2)2 + 2(A2)(A1) cos(a) ] 1/2

The Attempt at a Solution


Let the amplitude of individual motions was "A" and the phase difference was "d".
So, A = [ A2 + A2 + 2(A)(A)cosd ] 1/2
=> A= A [ 2 + 2cosd]1/2
=> 2 + 2cosd = 1
=> cosd = -(1/2)
=> d = 2[tex]\pi[/tex]/3 or 4[tex]\pi[/tex]/3 [taking values b/w [0,2[tex]\pi[/tex]]
But the answer got only 2[tex]\pi[/tex]/3
Did i did wrong at some place ?
Thanks for reading (^.^)
 
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Take a close look at your cosine law.
 
Looks correct to me.

It may help you to think of these situations in terms of "phasors"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phasor

Draw a vector representing each wave with a length equal to the amplitude, and an angle equal to the phase. The resultant vector will give you the amplitude and phase of your composition.
 
Thanks to you both for replying ^.^
Hmm cosine law-- U mean " cosd = -(1/2) " .
Whats wrong abt it ?? O.O
Or u want to say i sud solve like : d = arccos(-1/2)
and take the principal values only which lies in [0,pie] and thus, get 2(pie)/3 only.
Is that so?
 
Beaker87 said:
Looks correct to me.

You're right of course; I was thinking of the basic cosine law without considering where the angle "a" was coming from in this problem.
 

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