Conceptual? question of direction/magnetic force of current in x-y plane

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The discussion focuses on determining the direction of the magnetic force acting on an electron located at the origin due to three long wires carrying current I, directed out of the x-y plane. The correct application of the right-hand rule reveals that the magnetic force on the electron is directed out of the page, towards the positive z-axis, rather than towards the negative x-axis. Key equations referenced include the magnetic field strength B = μ0I/(2πr) and the Lorentz force equation, which is essential for calculating the force on charged particles in magnetic fields.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of the right-hand rule for magnetic fields
  • Familiarity with the Lorentz force equation
  • Knowledge of magnetic field strength calculations (B = μ0I/(2πr))
  • Concept of current direction in long wires
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  • Study the application of the right-hand rule in various electromagnetic scenarios
  • Learn about the Lorentz force in different contexts, including electric fields
  • Explore the implications of magnetic fields generated by multiple current-carrying wires
  • Investigate the effects of special relativity on electromagnetic interactions
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Homework Statement


3 long wires are perpendicular
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Each passes through x-y plane with a distance of L from origin. Each wire has a current, I, directed out of the drawing's plane. An electron is located a the origin with a velocity along the positive x-axis. What is the direction of the magnetic force on the electron?


Homework Equations


From what I know F = (4pix10^-7)I/(2*pi*r)


The Attempt at a Solution


I'm at a loss for this... but my thoughts on this are: Would each current (I1, I2, I3) have a negative charge and repel the electron out of the plane towards the negative x-axis?

The answer states that it is "out of the page (ie: graph)" and my understanding makes sense, correct?
 
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rfig08d said:
From what I know F = (4pix10^-7)I/(2*pi*r)
Nooo, that's the magnetic field strength, not the force! :smile:

For a straight, long wire (not within in a magnetic material),
B = μ0I/(2πr)​
Use the right-hand rule to find the direction of the vector B.

Then use the Lorenz force equation (with E = 0) to find the force (which also might involve using the right-hand-rule).

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm at a loss for this... but my thoughts on this are: Would each current (I1, I2, I3) have a negative charge and repel the electron out of the plane towards the negative x-axis?
No, there is no net charge on the wire*. For every negative electron in the wire, there is also a positive proton in the wire. The net charge, and thus net electric field, is zero. For this problem you need to deal with magnetic fields, not electric fields.

*I'm intentionally leaving concepts of special relativity out of this conversation. they're not necessary to solve this problem
The answer states that it is "out of the page (ie: graph)"
Yes, out of the page is correct (not toward the negative x-axis). Out of the page meaning toward the positive z-axis.
 

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