Studying Condensed Matter Physics Grade vs Materials Science?

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The discussion centers on whether an undergraduate materials engineering student should pursue a PhD in condensed matter physics (CMP) or delve deeper into materials science and engineering (MSE), particularly in relation to semiconductor research. Key points include the relevance of semiconductors in both fields, with participants emphasizing that semiconductors are integral to both MSE and CMP. The conversation highlights the importance of selecting a program based on specific research strengths rather than broad field comparisons, as CMP is a subfield of physics requiring a different academic approach. The need for careful consideration of program strengths in semiconductor materials at various universities is also noted, with suggestions for reputable institutions to explore. Overall, the consensus suggests that the decision should be based on specific research interests and program strengths rather than a perceived need to switch fields.
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Hi, I'm an undergrad materials engineering student. I am thinking of studying all the way to a PhD as I'm interested on working in research. Right now I work with Semiconductors and I like the field a lot. However, considering what I'm studying, I want to know if it's a good Idea to look for a PhD. on CM Physucs or go deeper on MSE?. I'll be thankful to read your opinion.
 
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Joaco said:
Hi, I'm an undergrad materials engineering student. I am thinking of studying all the way to a PhD as I'm interested on working in research. Right now I work with Semiconductors and I like the field a lot. However, considering what I'm studying, I want to know if it's a good Idea to look for a PhD. on CM Physucs or go deeper on MSE?. I'll be thankful to read your opinion.

You have not given any compelling reason to switch to condensed matter physics other than the statement "... considering what I'm studying...", and I'm not even sure what that means. Semiconductors are as relevant in Material Science as it is in CMP. It is not a sufficient reason to switch.

Similarly, you WILL do research, and a lot of it, if you go on to do your PhD in Material Science. So that also isn't a valid reason to switch.

If you wish to try again and list out why you are considering such a switch, I'd like to see it.

Zz.
 
ZapperZ said:
You have not given any compelling reason to switch to condensed matter physics other than the statement "... considering what I'm studying...", and I'm not even sure what that means. Semiconductors are as relevant in Material Science as it is in CMP. It is not a sufficient reason to switch.

Similarly, you WILL do research, and a lot of it, if you go on to do your PhD in Material Science. So that also isn't a valid reason to switch.

If you wish to try again and list out why you are considering such a switch, I'd like to see it.

Zz.
I have been looking thru schools, and found that some have MSE research programs with a metallurgy orientation, and when I look for CMP the relevance of semiconductors is higher. I know I will do research in both areas but I understand approach is different, and I want to know how relevant is that on selecting the subject.
 
Joaco said:
I have been looking thru schools, and found that some have MSE research programs with a metallurgy orientation, and when I look for CMP the relevance of semiconductors is higher. I know I will do research in both areas but I understand approach is different, and I want to know how relevant is that on selecting the subject.

Which schools did you look at? I'm surprised you only saw schools dealing with metallurgy. Did you look, for example, at UIUC?

Secondly, you should know that CMP is a physics degree, and that means that you will have to go through a physics graduate program. Are you sufficiently prepared for such a program?

Zz.
 
Joaco said:
I have been looking thru schools, and found that some have MSE research programs with a metallurgy orientation, and when I look for CMP the relevance of semiconductors is higher. I know I will do research in both areas but I understand approach is different, and I want to know how relevant is that on selecting the subject.
You are not doing a correct A-B comparison. You are comparing the field of materials science and engineering (MSE) with condensed matter physics (CMP), which is a subfield of physics. If we're talking about US grad schools, typically (as always, there may be outliers lurking somewhere), you will apply for a PhD program in MSE or a PhD program in physics. Yes, some MSE programs are stronger in traditional metallurgy than semiconductor materials. But, so too, some physics programs are stronger in high-energy physics than semiconductor physics. So what? You pick MSE depts with strong programs in semiconductor materials or physics depts with strong programs in semiconductor physics [note that CMP has a much broader scope than semiconductor physics]. As a follow-up to Zz's post #4, have you looked at MSE PhD programs at UIUC, MIT, Cornell, Northwestern, and U of Mich Ann Arbor (just to name a few that I'm familiar with)?

If this is the primary issue affecting your choice, it's really a non-issue. If you have other issues, please ask.
 
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