Conditional Probability Distribution

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Homework Statement



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The Attempt at a Solution



I have that the joint probability mass function would be

\Pi_{i=1}^{k} \frac{\lambda_{i}^{n_{i}}}{n_{i}!} e^{-\lambda_{i}}

How would I go about applying the conditional to get the conditional distribution?
 

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SP90 said:

Homework Statement



attachment.php?attachmentid=47884&stc=1&d=1338504146.png


The Attempt at a Solution



I have that the joint probability mass function would be

\Pi_{i=1}^{k} \frac{\lambda_{i}^{n_{i}}}{n_{i}!} e^{-\lambda_{i}}

How would I go about applying the conditional to get the conditional distribution?

You need to compute
P(N_1 = n_1, N_2 = n_2, \ldots, N_k = n_k | \sum_{i=1}^k N_i = n)<br /> = \frac{ P(N_1 = n_1, N_2 = n_2, \ldots, N_k = n_k \: \&amp; \sum_{i=1}^k N_i = n)}{P(\sum_{i=1}^k N_i = n)} for any k-tuple (n_1, n_2, \ldots, n_k) that sums to n. Can you simplify the "event" in the numerator probability? Can you compute the denominator probability?

RGV
 
I don't understand how the \sum_{i=1}^k N_i = n term constrains the joint distribution, given that each \lambda_{i} can be distinct.

Also, to evaluate P(\sum_{i=1}^k N_i = n), wouldn't this be the joint distribution, evaluated at N_{1}=n-\sum_{i=2}^{k}N_{i} and then N_{2}=n-\sum_{i=3}^{k}N_{i} and so on? I feel that's wrong because it doesn't seem like it'd collapse down nicely.
 
SP90 said:
I don't understand how the \sum_{i=1}^k N_i = n term constrains the joint distribution, given that each \lambda_{i} can be distinct.

Also, to evaluate P(\sum_{i=1}^k N_i = n), wouldn't this be the joint distribution, evaluated at N_{1}=n-\sum_{i=2}^{k}N_{i} and then N_{2}=n-\sum_{i=3}^{k}N_{i} and so on? I feel that's wrong because it doesn't seem like it'd collapse down nicely.

The \lambda_i have absolutely nothing to do with the n_i; if you think they do, then you seriously misunderstand the material. The formula you wrote for the joint pmf is P(N_1 = n_1, \ldots, N_k = n_k). The only role of the \lambda_i is to control the size of this probability, but that has nothing to do with the n_i values themselves.

RGV
 
But because the joint PMF is a multiplication of the individual PMFs, the term becomes \lambda_{1}^{n_{1}}\lambda_{2}^{n_{2}}\lambda_{3}^{n_{3}}... which means the term \sum_{i=1}^k N_i = n doesn't appear in the joint PMF (although it would if the \lambda_{i} were equal), so I don't understand how the condition \sum_{i=1}^k N_i = n is applied to give P(N_1 = n_1, N_2 = n_2, \ldots, N_k = n_k \: \&amp; \sum_{i=1}^k N_i = n)
 
SP90 said:
But because the joint PMF is a multiplication of the individual PMFs, the term becomes \lambda_{1}^{n_{1}}\lambda_{2}^{n_{2}}\lambda_{3}^{n_{3}}... which means the term \sum_{i=1}^k N_i = n doesn't appear in the joint PMF (although it would if the \lambda_{i} were equal), so I don't understand how the condition \sum_{i=1}^k N_i = n is applied to give P(N_1 = n_1, N_2 = n_2, \ldots, N_k = n_k \: \&amp; \sum_{i=1}^k N_i = n)

Try first to figure out what happens when k = 2, then maybe k = 3. You should see a pattern emerging.

RGV
 
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