Conjugate Addition and Ether Formation

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The discussion focuses on the process of conjugate addition and ether formation in organic chemistry. Participants question the necessity of acid in carbonyl or conjugate addition reactions, with one confirming that lithium methyl (LiMe) acts as a hard nucleophile, suggesting a carbonyl addition occurs. There is uncertainty about producing an ether from conjugate addition, with hints provided that it may require two steps rather than one. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the initial product formed before any acid is added. Overall, the thread highlights key concepts in organic synthesis and the mechanisms involved in these reactions.
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http://i43.tinypic.com/nxvw41.jpg

Ok here it is molecule B.

http://i39.tinypic.com/333aaro.jpg

Ok and here it is problem nr. 8, second molecule.


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So why is it that we do not add any acid here, as far as I know one need acid, in order to do a succesfull carbonlyl or conjugate addition, right? So how come? And because it is LiMe (which is a hard nucleophile) I think it will be a carbonyl addition, so am I right?

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Well I did not really get that far as I am really not sure how to produce an ether from conjugate addition... So how to?

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lo2 said:

Homework Statement



http://i43.tinypic.com/nxvw41.jpg

Ok here it is molecule B.

http://i39.tinypic.com/333aaro.jpg

Ok and here it is problem nr. 8, second molecule.


Homework Equations



No equations needed.

The Attempt at a Solution



1)
So why is it that we do not add any acid here, as far as I know one need acid, in order to do a succesfull carbonlyl or conjugate addition, right? So how come? And because it is LiMe (which is a hard nucleophile) I think it will be a carbonyl addition, so am I right?

Yes, you are correct. Why can't you draw the initially-formed product (before acid is added)?

2)
Well I did not really get that far as I am really not sure how to produce an ether from conjugate addition... So how to?

There is a hint in the previous problem. I'm not sure how to do this in one step but it's possible in two.
 
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