Conservation laws - Ball hitting a rod about its end

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The discussion focuses on the conservation laws applicable to a ball colliding with a rod at its end. It establishes that linear momentum, kinetic energy, and angular momentum are conserved during the elastic collision. The calculations show that the final velocity of the ball is half its initial velocity, and the angular velocity of the rod can be derived from energy conservation principles. Participants emphasize the importance of visualizing the scenario and verifying calculations through sketches or practical experiments. Overall, the reasoning and calculations presented are deemed sound, provided the assumptions about the system are clear.
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


v = wr
K_total = 1/2Mv^2 + 1/2Iw^2
L = Iw
p = mv

The Attempt at a Solution


a. No friction or other outside forces are acting on the system, so linear momentum is conserved.

The collision is elastic, so kinetic energy is conserved.

There are no external torques so angular momentum is also conserved.

b. We can now write our conservation laws:

Linear momentum: Mv_0 = Mv_f + Mv_f
Energy: 1/2Mv_0^2 = 1/2Mv_f^2 + 1/2Iw_f^2
Angular momentum: MRv_0 = Iw + MRv_f

Is my thinking correct so far?
 
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So far so good.
Take conservation of angular momentum at the instant of impact to make the maths easy.
 
I or a rod rotating about its center = ML^2/12

From linear momentum, the velocity of the ball and center of rod is given by Mv_0 = 2Mv_f, or v_f = v_0/2

To find the angular velocity, we can use our energy equation and plug in v_f:
1/2Mv_0^2 = 1/2M*(v_0^2 /4) +1/2*(ML^2/12)*w_f^2
1/2Mv_0^2 = 1/8Mv_0^2 + ML^2w_f^2/24
3/8v_0^2 = L^2w_f^2/24
9v_0^2/L^2 = w_f^2
w_f = 3v_0/L

How does that look?
 
The reasoning works OK.
So long as you are clear about the "before" and "after" situations.

Did you account for energy stored in the rotation (my eyes cross when there are so many symbols and numbers)?
I'm guessing you are assuming the ball is sliding and not rolling?

What you really need is some way to check your own results instead of relying on someone else to tell you you've got it right or not.

One way to do that is the sketch the situation before and after, putting little arrows on to indicate what you've calculated, and looking to see if it makes sense. If you have a smooth surface handy - vinyl table top say - you can even do a mini experiment.
 
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