Conservation of Energy block of mass

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The problem involves a block of mass m1 released from a wedge of mass m2 on a frictionless surface, and the initial approach using conservation of energy was incorrect. The correct solution requires accounting for the kinetic energy of the wedge, which moves when the block leaves it. The initial energy equation must include both the potential energy of the block and the kinetic energy of the wedge. After recognizing this oversight, the correct height of the wedge can be determined. Understanding the conservation of momentum alongside energy is crucial for solving this problem accurately.
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A small block of mass m1 = 0.600 kg is released from rest at the top of a curved wedge of mass m2 = 4.50 kg, which sits on a frictionless horizontal surface as in Figure P6.59a. When the block leaves the wedge, its velocity is measured to be 4.00 m/s to the right, as in Figure P6.59b.

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What is the height h of the wedge?

Isn't this problem just conservation of energy
I did
KE+PE initial = KE + PE final
0 + mgh = 1/2 mv^2 + 0 and solve for h v is 4.0 m/s
9.8 h = 8
h= .82
but it saids i am wrong, please help
 
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SamTsui86 said:
A small block of mass m1 = 0.600 kg is released from rest at the top of a curved wedge of mass m2 = 4.50 kg, which sits on a frictionless horizontal surface as in Figure P6.59a. When the block leaves the wedge, its velocity is measured to be 4.00 m/s to the right, as in Figure P6.59b.

p6-59.gif


What is the height h of the wedge?

Isn't this problem just conservation of energy
I did
KE+PE initial = KE + PE final
0 + mgh = 1/2 mv^2 + 0 and solve for h v is 4.0 m/s
9.8 h = 8
h= .82
but it saids i am wrong, please help
It is not just conservation of energy, and you have not accounted for all of the energy. The wedge is not stationary in this problem. What is conserved?
 
oh i understand now, i have to include the kinetic energy of the wedge in the formula, thank you
 
SamTsui86 said:
oh i understand now, i have to include the kinetic energy of the wedge in the formula, thank you
And you have to include another conservation principle
 
oh ok, i got the answer now, thank you
 
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