Conservation of energy, PE & KE problem. help?

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The discussion revolves around a conservation of energy problem involving potential energy (PE) and kinetic energy (KE) as a block slides down a frictionless ramp. The original poster presents specific speeds at two points on the ramp and seeks clarification on the relationship between KE and PE during the block's motion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate KE at two points and questions the interpretation of the relationship between changes in KE and PE. Participants discuss the conservation of mechanical energy and the transformation of PE into KE as the block descends.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring various interpretations of the energy conservation principle. Some have provided insights into the relationship between KE and PE, while others suggest alternative approaches, including the use of Newton's laws of motion. The discussion remains open with no explicit consensus reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the assumption that point A is higher than point B, which is crucial for understanding the energy transformations involved. There is also mention of potential missing information regarding the variables involved in the problem.

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Conservation of energy, PE & KE problem. help??

a block is sent sliding down a frictionless ramp. Its speeds at points A and B are 2.00 m/s and 2.60 m/s, respectively. Next, it is again sent sliding down the ramp, but this time its speed at point A is 4.00 m/s. What then is its speed at point B?


I understand the first step is to calculate the KE

KE at pt A:
KEa = (1/2) m(2)^2
KEa= 2m*
calculating the KE at pt B:
KEb = (1/2)mv^2
KEb = 3.38m

This part from the solution guide that I'm confused about:
"the difference between the KE at pt B and at pt A is the gravitational potential energy, therefore
Eg = KEb - KEa
Eg = 3.38 - 2m
Eg = 1.38m (m is the mass)"

I don't understand this part!

So PE = KEa - KEb??

Why is that?


And then (this part I also do not understand)
KEa2 = 1/2m(4.00)^(2) = 8m

To get the answer it would be

8m+1.38m=9.38m

1/2mv^(2) = 9.38m
V= 4.33 m/s



I am very confused. Can someone please explain to one to me. Thanks !
 
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Point A must be higher than point B. As the block lowers to point B, some PE transforms to added KE.

Mechanical energy is conserved:

KEA + PEA = KEB + PEB

Rearranging, that becomes:
KEB - KEA = PEA - PEB
 


Conceptually (no numbers for now), how is the change in KE of the block related to the change in PE when sliding from a to b? [EDIT: Doc Al posted while I was still typing. Beat me to the punch :)]
 


While I was reading your post, it didn't occur to me to use the method you mentioned. If you are keen to take the energy approach and it works for you, by all means do!

However, the answer you quoted can be reached by just using Newton's laws of motion. Perhaps it would be easier for you to see what is going on in the problem this way?

Although it seems at first that you don't have enough information to fill in all the blanks (u,v,a,s and t) consider that you might be able to include some of these generally (just as letters), because they can be canceled out later.
 

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