Conservation of energy - spring

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The discussion centers on calculating the compression of a spring when a 5 kg weight is dropped from a height of 0.4 m, using the spring constant k of 1700 N/m. The correct equation to use is g*m*(h+ΔL)=(1/2)*k*(ΔL)^2, where g represents the acceleration due to gravity. The user initially omitted the gravitational force in their potential energy calculation, leading to confusion regarding the quadratic equation's solutions. The positive solution should be the correct answer for the spring's compression.

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Homework Statement


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Hello, I'm having a problem with this. So we drop the weight on this spring, and the question is: how much does the spring compress? The mass is 5kg, the height 0,4m, and the spring elasticity factor k=1700N/m.

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The Attempt at a Solution


I've tried to equalize the potential energies of when we drop the weight, and when it's all the way down. It looks like this: m(h+ΔL)=(1/2)*k*(ΔL)^2. I get a quadratic equation, and solve it. I get two answers one with +, and one -. I've tried to enter the positive one, and it's not correct. Should I enter the negative one, or is my whole attempt faulty?
 
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lukatwo said:

Homework Statement


hh86igL.png

Hello, I'm having a problem with this. So we drop the weight on this spring, and the question is: how much does the spring compress? The mass is 5kg, the height 0,4m, and the spring elasticity factor k=1700N/m.

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


I've tried to equalize the potential energies of when we drop the weight, and when it's all the way down. It looks like this: m(h+ΔL)=(1/2)*k*(ΔL)^2. I get a quadratic equation, and solve it. I get two answers one with +, and one -. I've tried to enter the positive one, and it's not correct. Should I enter the negative one, or is my whole attempt faulty?
Looks like you left out g in your gravitational PE term, otherwise, looks good. Think positive.
 
Should it be g*m*(h+∆L)=(1/2)*k*(∆L)^2, because if it's on both sides it's the same
 
lukatwo said:
Should it be g*m*(h+∆L)=(1/2)*k*(∆L)^2, because if it's on both sides it's the same
Sure!
 

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