Conservation of energy - spring

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The discussion revolves around calculating the compression of a spring when a 5kg weight is dropped from a height of 0.4m, with a spring constant of 1700N/m. The user attempts to equate gravitational potential energy and spring potential energy but initially omits the gravitational acceleration (g) in their equation. They derive a quadratic equation but find that the positive solution does not yield the correct compression value. A suggestion is made to include g in the gravitational potential energy term for accurate calculations. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly applying energy conservation principles in solving the problem.
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Hello, I'm having a problem with this. So we drop the weight on this spring, and the question is: how much does the spring compress? The mass is 5kg, the height 0,4m, and the spring elasticity factor k=1700N/m.

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I've tried to equalize the potential energies of when we drop the weight, and when it's all the way down. It looks like this: m(h+ΔL)=(1/2)*k*(ΔL)^2. I get a quadratic equation, and solve it. I get two answers one with +, and one -. I've tried to enter the positive one, and it's not correct. Should I enter the negative one, or is my whole attempt faulty?
 
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lukatwo said:

Homework Statement


hh86igL.png

Hello, I'm having a problem with this. So we drop the weight on this spring, and the question is: how much does the spring compress? The mass is 5kg, the height 0,4m, and the spring elasticity factor k=1700N/m.

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


I've tried to equalize the potential energies of when we drop the weight, and when it's all the way down. It looks like this: m(h+ΔL)=(1/2)*k*(ΔL)^2. I get a quadratic equation, and solve it. I get two answers one with +, and one -. I've tried to enter the positive one, and it's not correct. Should I enter the negative one, or is my whole attempt faulty?
Looks like you left out g in your gravitational PE term, otherwise, looks good. Think positive.
 
Should it be g*m*(h+∆L)=(1/2)*k*(∆L)^2, because if it's on both sides it's the same
 
lukatwo said:
Should it be g*m*(h+∆L)=(1/2)*k*(∆L)^2, because if it's on both sides it's the same
Sure!
 
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