Conservation of linear momentum at the skating rink

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The problem involves the conservation of linear momentum in a scenario at a skating rink, where a girl and her father slide together on ice. The girl has a mass of 35 kg and moves at a velocity of 3.0 m/s towards her father, who has a mass of 90 kg and is initially stationary. The discussion also explores the situation after the father pushes his daughter, causing them to move in opposite directions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the conservation of momentum to find the common speed when the girl and her father slide together. They express confusion regarding the second part of the problem, where the father pushes his daughter, and seek guidance on how to set up the equations correctly.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the application of momentum conservation principles. Some guidance has been offered regarding expressing the conditions mathematically, and the original poster has acknowledged a previous misunderstanding related to kinetic energy conservation.

Contextual Notes

The original poster references an answer key that suggests a specific speed for the second part of the problem, which they are struggling to reconcile with their calculations.

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Homework Statement



a) At the skating rink, a girl of 35 kgs slides at a velocity of 3.0 m/s against her father. Her father, who is standing with his skates in the direction of motion, has a mass of 90 kgs. He takes hold of her and they slide together across the ice. Friction is ignored. What is their common speed?

b) While they're gliding along at this speed, the father shoves his daughter, so that they move in opposite directions. The father still moves with the same velocity as his daughter, but in the other direction. What is their speed now.



Homework Equations



p=p0

The Attempt at a Solution



a) I have calculated their speed while moving as one body : p=p_0\Leftrightarrow (m+M)v=mv_0+0\Leftrightarrow v=(mv_0)/(m+M)=\frac{35 kg\cdot 3.0 m/s}{35 kg+90 kg}=0.84 m/s. This complies with the answer key of my book.

b) I don't manage to calculate the right answer here, the answer key of my book says it shall be approximately 1.9 m/s. Could you give me some directions?
 
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mstud said:
b) I don't manage to calculate the right answer here, the answer key of my book says it shall be approximately 1.9 m/s. Could you give me some directions?
Momentum is still conserved. See if you can express the given conditions mathematically.
 
I see

I must solve:
(m+M)v=Mv_2 +m(-v_2) for v_2

When I posted the original question I had tried to "conserve" kinetical energy and solve it for velocity. :lol:
 
Thanks a lot!
 

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