Conservation of momentum continous mass flow freight cart.

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The discussion centers on the confusion regarding the choice of initial time in two worked examples involving conservation of momentum for a continuous mass flow freight cart. In the first example, the initial time is set to zero, allowing for a straightforward application of momentum conservation. In the second example, an arbitrary initial time is chosen, which complicates the analysis but is typical in deriving differential equations. The distinction arises because the second example also considers a time interval, which is not necessary in the first. Understanding these differences is crucial for correctly applying the principles of momentum conservation in various scenarios.
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I am having difficulty understanding why in 2.1 Worked Example Coal Car on page 3 One can use the initial time as time = 0, but 2.2 Worked example on page 4 they start the initial time at an arbitrary time t.


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because in the second example if you start with the initial time =0 then the initial momentum is zero because it is initially at rest and this simplifies the second example to a solutions similar to the first. But that is wrong.
 
your two links point to the same page, and I can't see anything there that matches either description.
 
Thank you I put up the wrong link. Here is the correct link:
 
In each case they start at t=0. In 2.2 they also consider some arbitrary later time t and an interval δt from there. That is normal when deriving differential equations. In 2.1 they did not need to do that; they could solve the problem just by considering t=0 and t=tf and applying conservation of momentum. Whether such an approach was available in 2.2 I've not tried to analyse.
 
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