Conservation of momentum/energy

In summary, the conversation discusses the use of conservation of energy and momentum in solving a problem involving a skater's moment of inertia and angular velocity. While conservation of momentum gave the correct answer, conservation of energy could not be used due to the presence of external forces. It is also noted that if there were a non-conservative force, momentum would not be conserved. The skater's work in bringing their arms closer to the body also serves to increase kinetic energy.
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Homework Statement


http://imgur.com/cEqXb24

Homework Equations


Ki = Kf
Li = Lf

The Attempt at a Solution


So I tried to solve this using conservation of energy as well as conservation of momentum, but only conservation of momentum gave the correct answer. Why can't conservation of energy be used in this situation?
 
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Here is the work:
Both of these moments of inertia already include the body:
Iinitial = 2.83
Ifinal = 0.9625
ωinitial = 0.40 rev/s

Using conservation of momentum:
Iinitialωinitial = Ifinalωfinal
(2.83)(0.4) = (0.9625)ωfinal
ωfinal = 1.2 rev/s

Using conservation of energy:
Wnon-conservative forces = 0 and no potential energy.
Kinitial = Kfinal
(1/2)Iinitialωinitial2 = (1/2)Ifinalωfinal2
(2.83)(0.402) = (0.9625)(ωfinal2)
ωfinal = 0.69 rev/s
 
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Also, if there were a non conservative force such as friction, momentum would not be conserved because it would be an external force.
 
  • #4
The skater has to do work to bring the arms closer to the body, and this increases the kinetic energy.
 

1. What is conservation of momentum/energy?

Conservation of momentum/energy is a fundamental law of physics that states that the total momentum/energy of a closed system remains constant over time. This means that in a closed system, the initial momentum/energy of the system will always be equal to the final momentum/energy, regardless of any internal changes or interactions within the system.

2. Why is conservation of momentum/energy important?

Conservation of momentum/energy is important because it allows us to make predictions and calculations about the behavior of physical systems. It is also a fundamental principle that underlies many other laws and theories in physics, such as Newton's laws of motion and the laws of thermodynamics.

3. How is conservation of momentum/energy applied in real life?

Conservation of momentum/energy is applied in various fields, including engineering, mechanics, and astrophysics. For example, it is used to design efficient transportation systems, understand the motion of objects in collisions, and study the behavior of celestial bodies in space.

4. Can conservation of momentum/energy be violated?

No, conservation of momentum/energy is a universal law that has been observed to hold true in all physical systems. However, in some cases, it may appear that momentum/energy is not conserved, but this is due to external forces or energy transfers that are not accounted for in the system being studied.

5. How does conservation of momentum/energy relate to the conservation of mass?

The conservation of momentum/energy and the conservation of mass are related through the famous equation, E=mc^2, which states that mass and energy are equivalent and can be converted into one another. This means that in situations where mass is conserved, momentum/energy must also be conserved, and vice versa.

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