Constervation of Mechanical Energy Problem

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The problem involves the conservation of mechanical energy in the context of a softball pitcher rotating a ball in a vertical circular path. The scenario includes calculating the speed of the ball upon release after being subjected to a force while moving along the circular path.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the work-energy principle and the relevant equations for kinetic and potential energy. There is an exploration of how to incorporate the work done by the pitcher into the energy calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided corrections and clarifications regarding the equations used, particularly emphasizing the need to consider the work done over half the circumference of the circle. There is an acknowledgment of the role of gravitational potential energy in the calculations, and the discussion reflects a mix of interpretations regarding the conservation of mechanical energy in the presence of external forces.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of correctly identifying the height change in potential energy and the implications of external work on the mechanical energy of the system. There is a mention of the non-conservation of mechanical energy due to the applied force.

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Hi. I really need some help with this problem. I'm a little lost and my head seems ready to explode. Any hints will be appreciated.

Homework Statement



A softball pitcher rotates a .265 kg ball around a vertical circular path of radius .568 m before releasing it. The pitcher exerts 24.7 N force directed parallel to the motion of the ball around the complete circular path. The speed of the ball at the top of the circle is 14.3 m/s. If the ball is released at the bottom of the circle, what is its speed upon release?

Homework Equations


hmm. I know Kf+Uf=Ki+Ui will be used somewhere and some form of kinematic equations might be necessary. K=1/2 mv^2 and U=mgy.

The Attempt at a Solution


well, i tried W=F*r where r is the circumference of the circle and Force is 24.7 N and set it equal to Kf-Ki to find the final velocity. Answer was wrong. I just don't know where to plug in the acceleration of gravity...(force directed downward..etc.).
 
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lgmavs41 said:
Hi. I really need some help with this problem. I'm a little lost and my head seems ready to explode. Any hints will be appreciated.

Homework Statement



A softball pitcher rotates a .265 kg ball around a vertical circular path of radius .568 m before releasing it. The pitcher exerts 24.7 N force directed parallel to the motion of the ball around the complete circular path. The speed of the ball at the top of the circle is 14.3 m/s. If the ball is released at the bottom of the circle, what is its speed upon release?

Homework Equations


hmm. I know Kf+Uf=Ki+Ui will be used somewhere and some form of kinematic equations might be necessary. K=1/2 mv^2 and U=mgy.

The Attempt at a Solution


well, i tried W=F*r where r is the circumference of the circle and Force is 24.7 N and set it equal to Kf-Ki to find the final velocity. Answer was wrong. I just don't know where to plug in the acceleration of gravity...(force directed downward..etc.).
In calculating work, you have used the circle circumference, but you should be using just half its circumference since you are considering work from the given initial (top of circle) position to the final(bot of circle) position. Now first you must correct your 'relevant equation' to include this work term, then solve. Using this method, the acceleration of gravity is considered in the potential energy term. You can't just set the applied work of the force equal to Kf-Ki.
 
well, this is what i got...please comment if everything looks right..
w=kf-ki+uf-ui , uf=0
where ki = 1/2mv^2, ui = mg(2 times the radius for height), work=(2pi)(radius)(Force)

so kf=ki+ui+work...
 
*correction: so work = pi*radius*force...thanks
 
lgmavs41 said:
*correction: so work = pi*radius*force...thanks
yes, that all looks good.
 
phew, thanks for the help. really appreciate it.
 
lgmavs41 said:
phew, thanks for the help. really appreciate it.
You're welcome. Also note that mechanical energy(sum total of kinetic and potential energy) is NOT conserved when you have applied forces or friction forces acting. In this case, mechanical energy is gained due to the work done by the applied force.
 

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