Control Systems Engineering - Signal Flow Graphs

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The discussion focuses on the transition from state space representation to signal flow graph representation in control systems engineering. The user seeks clarification on whether it is permissible to draw arrows in either direction between nodes representing state variables and their derivatives, specifically between sx1(t) and v1(t). The consensus is that due to their one-to-one equivalency, the direction of arrows can indeed be reversed as needed. Additionally, the user provides an example with matrices A and B, illustrating how to represent outputs in the signal flow graph.

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  • Understanding of state space representation in control systems
  • Familiarity with signal flow graphs and their components
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  • Basic concepts of system dynamics and differential equations
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Hi,

I seem to be having some issues going from state space representation of a system to signal flow graph representation. My troubles seem to be, if I have something like this

\frac{d}{dt}x_{1}(t) = v_{1}(t)

In state space representation I list functions to which the derivatives are as a function of the state space variables.

In signal flow graph model of a system am I allowed to draw transistors from one node to another node by multiplication of one in either direction?

I don't if I'm explaining this well, but if I have a node for sx_{1}(t) and a node for v_{1}(t) am I able to to draw the transistor arrow from the nodes in either direction since they are equal to each other? That is a arrow coming out of the node that represents sx_{1}(t) and going into v_{1}(t) or the arrow coming out of the node representing v_{1}(t) and into the node representing sx_{1}(t). Mathematically I don't see why the direction of the arrows from the nodes can be reversed as needed since they have a one-to-one equivalency. I just want to make sure. If I'm not able to do this and I'm not sure I can solve this problem I'm trying to solve.

Thanks for any help.
 
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your output doesn't always have to be equal to 1 state variable
ex.

\dot{X}=AX+BU
Y=CX+Du

A=[0 4
7 -2]

B=[1
3]

if you want y to equal \dot{X1}, you can say
C=[0 4]
D=[1]

Does that make sense?
 
So that means for the signal flow graph that your output can directly be that sx1 node. You don't need to draw an arrow, that node can simply be sx1 and v1
 
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