Coulomb's Law to find the net force

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The discussion focuses on using Coulomb's Law to determine the distance 'd' at which the x-component of the force on a charge is maximized. Participants express confusion about isolating 'd' and calculating the force in the x-direction, with one suggesting the use of calculus to find the maximum. The formula for the force is provided, emphasizing the need to express it in terms of 'd' and its relationship to the angle theta. A graphical representation is recommended to clarify the problem, and participants are encouraged to consider the function's maximization techniques. Understanding these concepts is crucial for solving the problem effectively.
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Homework Statement


Charge 8e-18 C is on the y-axis a distance 2 m from the origin and charge
9e-18 C is on the x-axis a distance d from the origin. The Coulomb constant is 8.98755e9 Nm^2/C^2.

What is the value of d for which the x component of the force on 9e-18 C is the greatest?


Homework Equations



Coulomb's law: F = kq1q2/r^2

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to use Coulomb's law to find the net force and then to find the force in the x direction but I became very stuck.

F = 8.98755e9 Nm^2/C^2 * 8e-18 C * 9e-18 C / (4 + d^2)

My problem is I have two unknowns and I can't find the value of d. Please help if you can.
 
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d is the only unknown.

One has F, from which one finds Fx = F cos (theta). What is cos (theta) in terms of 'd'?

How would one find the maximum of Fx as a function of d?
 
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theta = adjacent/hypotenuse


How do you already know what F is?
 
My apology - I should have asked - What is cos (theta) in terms of 'd'?

Coulomb's law: F = kq1q2/r^2

which one then writes

F = 8.98755e9 Nm^2/C^2 * 8e-18 C * 9e-18 C / (4 + d^2)
 
cos theta would equal d/ sqrt(4 + d^2)?

Could you clarify a little bit more about how to solve this problem? Sorry I'm a bit confused.
 
kiwikahuna said:

Homework Statement


Charge 8e-18 C is on the y-axis a distance 2 m from the origin and charge
9e-18 C is on the x-axis a distance d from the origin. The Coulomb constant is 8.98755e9 Nm^2/C^2.

What is the value of d for which the x component of the force on 9e-18 C is the greatest?


Homework Equations



Coulomb's law: F = kq1q2/r^2

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to use Coulomb's law to find the net force and then to find the force in the x direction but I became very stuck.

F = 8.98755e9 Nm^2/C^2 * 8e-18 C * 9e-18 C / (4 + d^2)

My problem is I have two unknowns and I can't find the value of d. Please help if you can.

Hey,

Let,

q_{1} = 8{\textcolor[rgb]{1.00,1.00,1.00}{.}}x{\textcolor[rgb]{1.00,1.00,1.00}{.}}10^{-18}{\textcolor[rgb]{1.00,1.00,1.00}{.}}C

q_{2} = 9{\textcolor[rgb]{1.00,1.00,1.00}{.}}x{\textcolor[rgb]{1.00,1.00,1.00}{.}}10^{-18}{\textcolor[rgb]{1.00,1.00,1.00}{.}}C

Also let the distance between q_{1} and q_{2} be r_{12} (read as: distance r from 1 to 2) instead of plain r, makes the problem clearer.

First, draw a picture, makes the problem much easier.

Second, consider what you already know.

You know Coulomb's Law:

Vector Form:

<br /> \vec{F}_{12} = \frac{k_{e}q_{1}q_{2}}{{r_{12}}^2}\hat{r}_{21}<br />

Scalar Form:

<br /> |\vec{F}_{12}| = \frac{k_{e}|q_{1}||q_{2}|}{{r_{12}}^2}<br />

Now, you also know that,

<br /> F_{21}_{x} = |\vec{F}_{21}|cos{\theta}<br />

And you need to find the value of d that would maximize <br /> F_{21}_{x}, therefore consider rewriting as,

<br /> F_{21}_{x}(d) = |\vec{F}_{21}|\left(\frac{d}{\sqrt{d^2+2^2}}\right)<br />

<br /> F_{21}_{x}(d) = \left(\frac{k_{e}|q_{1}||q_{2}|}{{r_{12}}^2}\right)\left(\frac{d}{\sqrt{d^2+2^2}}\right)<br />

<br /> F_{21}_{x}(d) = \left(\frac{k_{e}|q_{1}||q_{2}|}{{(\sqrt{d^2+2^2})}^2}\right)\left(\frac{d}{\sqrt{d^2+2^2}}\right)<br />

Now ask yourself, "Given a function of a single variable, how do you maximize that function? (hint: think calculus)".

Also remember d is a variable, not a constant.



-PFStudent
 
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