D'Alembert's Principle: Finding Velocity of Hammer Before Impact

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The discussion centers on using d'Alembert's principle to find the velocity of a hammer just before it impacts a pile. The problem provides the mass of the hammer (300 kg), its height (3.5 m), and the gravitational acceleration (9.81 m/s²). The user solved the problem using conservation of energy, resulting in a velocity of approximately 8.287 m/s. Another participant explains that d'Alembert's principle can be applied by considering the forces acting on the hammer, leading to the conclusion that the hammer's acceleration equals gravitational acceleration. The discussion emphasizes the validity of using both conservation of energy and kinematic equations to determine the hammer's speed before impact.
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Homework Statement


i have a question on D'alemberts principle in which it asks me to find the velocity of a hammer immediately before impact with a pile

the information i have been given is as follows:
mass of hammer;300kg
height of hammer;3.5m
gravity to be taken as;9.81
mass of pile ;500kg

I have solved the question using the conservation of energy technique in which
KE = GPE
0.5mv^2 = mgh
0.5x300xv^2 = 300x9.81x3.5
v=square root of 9.81x3.5/0.5
v=8.287m/s

Homework Equations


KE=1/2mv^2
GPE=mgh
F=Ma=-Fi

The Attempt at a Solution


all attempts at a solution have proved to be futile as i cannot wrap my head around it, i have read about inertia forces and that an applied force must overcome this inertia force in order to accelerate however I am stumped when it comes to this question Any help would be massively appreciated
 
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I think there may be a second part to this problem that might be asking to use the inertia force during the impact period. But in terms of just find hammer speed before impact, either use conservation of energy or the kinematic free fall equations.
 
Alex Christie said:

Homework Statement


i have a question on D'alemberts principle in which it asks me to find the velocity of a hammer immediately before impact with a pile

the information i have been given is as follows:
mass of hammer;300kg
height of hammer;3.5m
gravity to be taken as;9.81
mass of pile ;500kg

I have solved the question using the conservation of energy technique in which
KE = GPE
0.5mv^2 = mgh
0.5x300xv^2 = 300x9.81x3.5
v=square root of 9.81x3.5/0.5
v=8.287m/s
Well, this would be a trivial application of d'Alembert's principle, but it would go as follows:
F = ma can be rewritten as F - ma = 0.
So we consider the term -ma as a force F2 = -ma; then F + F2 = 0 and we now think of the problem as a static one (the hammer does not move since ΣF = 0.) This is entirely acceptable, weird though it may sound, since the equation remains unchanged.

So we have mg - ma = 0 or a = g. Then of course knowing a you can compute v from the appropriate kinematic free fall equations as post #2 says.
 
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