Dative bond confusion (or coordinate bond)

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The discussion centers on the confusion surrounding dative bonds in complex ions, particularly in the context of copper(II) ions and their interaction with water molecules. When NH3 donates a lone pair to H+, it stabilizes the ion, but in the case of Cu^2+, the lone pairs from water molecules are donated to the d-orbitals of the copper ion, leading to complex formation. This process involves hybridization, where the orbitals combine to create a specific geometry, such as trigonal bipyramidal, depending on the number of ligands and their arrangement. The conversation also touches on the limitations of ligand coordination, noting that six water molecules cannot adopt a trigonal bipyramidal structure. For further understanding, exploring Werner's theory on d-block metals and complex formation is recommended.
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I am a little confused with this. I know what a dative bond is, but the problem is when it comes to complex ions I do not understand.

ok now for example

NH_3 + H^+ = NH_4^+

So in this the lone pair of NH3 will fill the s- subshell of H and make it stable,

but say in Cu^2^+
when this attracts six water molecules with six lone pairs, where do these lone pairs go? I mean what subshell does it fill?I really appreciate if you can help me with this.
Thanks alot
 
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they are dumped into the LUMO.
 
They go into a higher energy orbital.

Its more advanced than it seems though, The different shells actually sort of combine in a way called hybridisation, these shells form a difinitive shape. The lone pairs partially go into these hybridisation shells.

i think someone else could probably describe it more correctly. I'm not too confidant on the subject myself.
 
When cu2+ is hydrated, the lone pairs of electrons present on the oxygen atom of water are 'donated' to the d-orbital of the copper 2+ ion. This is why copper can form complexes (thats what the species is called).

This species has a certain structure which depends on the type of ligand attacking (in this case water), the number of bonds formed, and where the lone pairs go. Here, the orbitals undergo dsp^3 hybridisation (that basically means the number of lone pairs present in the respective orbital: in this case, 1 in 3d, 1 in 4s, and 3 in 4p) to give the species trigonal bipyramidal geometry (a triangle with two bonds perpendicular to the plane sticking out of the center).

Look up werner's theory/ability of d-block metals to form complexes if you want more detail.

Another example of a complex is Tollen's reagent [Ag(NH3)4]+ which gives your famous silver mirror test for aldehydes.
 
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