Dave Jones Discovers a Quirk in Electronics Engineering!

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The discussion revolves around a claim made by Dave Jones regarding a peculiar behavior of the 555 timer IC at a specific voltage of 7.555V. Participants explore the validity of this claim, questioning its scientific basis and implications within electronics engineering.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about the claim, suggesting it lacks scientific credibility and may be more akin to astrology or numerology than rigorous circuit analysis.
  • Concerns are raised regarding the reproducibility of behavior at 7.555V, with one participant arguing that no two chips would behave identically due to manufacturing tolerances.
  • Another participant questions the accuracy of voltmeters in measuring such a specific voltage, suggesting that calibration issues could affect results.
  • Some participants speculate about the naming of the 555 timer and its relation to the voltage in question, although this remains unverified.
  • Several comments reference the timing of the YouTube video being posted on April 1st, hinting at the possibility of it being an April Fools' joke.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the validity of the claim regarding the 7.555V behavior of the 555 timer, with some dismissing it entirely while others suggest it warrants further investigation. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views present.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for further verification of the claims made in the video, particularly regarding the specific voltage and its implications for the 555 timer's operation.

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I frequent the community around the Electronics Engineering Video Blog. Apparently the host Dave Jones found a neat little quirk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ4r8Rc5aus

A member of the forum confirmed that it worked on the CMOS version, only if the voltage was 7.555V too.

What do you folks think?
 
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A big load of BS.
 
Antiphon said:
A big load of BS.
Any particular reason?
 
This is more astrology/numerology than circuit analysis. The 555 has way more than 5 resistors in it. And odd behavior at 7.555 volts? Come on. There isn't a bandgap reference on the planet that is that reproducible let alone a CMOS IC. Neighboring 555 chips sawed out of the same wafer don't have tolerances that would permit them to act funny at 7.555 volts but not elsewhere. And at what temperature? It would take more transistors than are in a 555 to make a circuit that could recognize 7.555 volts in a temperature-independent way. You're in crystal oscillator territory for accuracy (7.555/7.554=132 parts per million). No silicon chip is that tight.

Edit: I'd bet $100 that no two random voltmeters would agree on where 7.555 volts actually is unless they were both recently calibrated to same reference.
 
Antiphon said:
This is more astrology/numerology than circuit analysis. The 555 has way more than 5 resistors in it. And odd behavior at 7.555 volts? Come on. There isn't a bandgap reference on the planet that is that reproducible let alone a CMOS IC. Neighboring 555 chips sawed out of the same wafer don't have tolerances that would permit them to act funny at 7.555 volts but not elsewhere. And at what temperature? It would take more transistors than are in a 555 to make a circuit that could recognize 7.555 volts in a temperature-independent way. You're in crystal oscillator territory for accuracy (7.555/7.554=132 parts per million). No silicon chip is that tight.

Edit: I'd bet $100 that no two random voltmeters would agree on where 7.555 volts actually is unless they were both recently calibrated to same reference.

Well the 7.555 was posted, but not shown by a member of the forum. All the video shows is one brand of the regular version.
 
Possible that this was the reason for its naming?
 
Blenton said:
Possible that this was the reason for its naming?

That's the idea. Still needs to be checked though.
 
YouTube video posted on April First
 
Phrak said:
YouTube video posted on April First
Well spotted Phrak. :smile:

I want to know what brand solder flux that guy is using and how much he's inhaling. :eek:
 
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uart said:
I want to know what brand solder flux that guy is using and how much he's inhaling. :eek:

Holy jeez, I know! He is rather obnoxious.
 
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Like Glenn Beck (or any other really good showman): you control the interpretation, you control the message.

EDIT: Happy April Fooled!
 
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April fools or not, the reason the 555 is so named is the 3 5K resistors that form a voltage divider to set a bias point on the latch to form the trip points of 1/3 Vcc and 2/3 Vcc.
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To think that something as ancient as the 555 would have an easter egg is beyond reason.
 

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