Derivation of non decaying mode in cosmology

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Homework Statement


Derive the following result : \phi_k=-C_1(k)\frac{\dot{H}(t)}{H(t)}.

Homework Equations



\phi_k=C_1(k)\Bigg(1-\frac{H}{a}\int\limits^{t}a(t)dt\Bigg)

a(t)= a(t_i)\exp\Bigg(H_i(t-t_i)+\dot{H}_i\frac{(t^2-t_i^2)}{2}\Bigg)

The Attempt at a Solution


So I stuck a(t) into \phi_k and then expanded the exponential and integrated. Just ended up with a mess really.
 
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I assume that ##\phi## is the metric perturbation and that you mean
$$ \phi_k = - C_1(k) \frac{\dot{H}}{H^{2}}.$$
Note the ##H^2## in the denominator.

If so, there is kind of a bizarre trick to use here. First, the fact that ##H = \dot{a}/a##, implies that
$$ a dt =H^{-1} da .~~~(*)$$
The idea then is to integrate by parts to show that
$$ \int a dt = \int H^{-1} da = H^{-1} a- \int a~ d \left( H^{-1} \right).$$
It seems weird, but this is formally ok to do. Now, we want to write
$$ d \left( H^{-1} \right) = \frac{ d \left( H^{-1} \right)}{dt} dt $$
and use (*) again to write the ##dt## integral as one over ##da##. Then it's one more integration by parts to get the term you want, plus another integral that you can see is small for ## \dot{H} \ll H^2##.

I had to give a lot of the problem away to explain the trick, but it's probably confusing enough that you still have a lot of work to do for it. I'll try to help with followup questions as needed.
 
fzero said:
I assume that ##\phi## is the metric perturbation and that you mean
$$ \phi_k = - C_1(k) \frac{\dot{H}}{H^{2}}.$$
Note the ##H^2## in the denominator.

If so, there is kind of a bizarre trick to use here. First, the fact that ##H = \dot{a}/a##, implies that
$$ a dt =H^{-1} da .~~~(*)$$
The idea then is to integrate by parts to show that
$$ \int a dt = \int H^{-1} da = H^{-1} a- \int a~ d \left( H^{-1} \right).$$
It seems weird, but this is formally ok to do. Now, we want to write
$$ d \left( H^{-1} \right) = \frac{ d \left( H^{-1} \right)}{dt} dt $$
and use (*) again to write the ##dt## integral as one over ##da##. Then it's one more integration by parts to get the term you want, plus another integral that you can see is small for ## \dot{H} \ll H^2##.

I had to give a lot of the problem away to explain the trick, but it's probably confusing enough that you still have a lot of work to do for it. I'll try to help with followup questions as needed.
Hey,

Thank you so much for the help but to solve the problem I have to put a(t) into \phi_k or have I missed something? I know that at some point I need to do an expansion in \frac{\dot{H_i}}{H^2_i}So following what you have said I have d(H^{-1})=\frac{d(H^{-1})}{dt}

and dt=\frac{H^{-1}}{a}da\longrightarrow d(H^{-1})=\frac{d(H^{-1})}{dt}H^{-1}\frac{da}{a} which looks hideous. Do I then stick this into the second term on the RHS of the integral? and then integrate by parts?
 
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smallgirl said:
Hey,

Thank you so much for the help but to solve the problem I have to put a(t) into \phi_k or have I missed something? I know that at some point I need to do an expansion in \frac{\dot{H_i}}{H^2_i}

With this method of doing the problem, we don't need to know anything special about ##a(t)## other than ## H = \dot{a}{a}##. So you don't need to use the expression for ##a## that you quoted.

So following what you have said I have d(H^{-1})=\frac{d(H^{-1})}{dt}

and dt=\frac{H^{-1}}{a}da\longrightarrow d(H^{-1})=\frac{d(H^{-1})}{dt}H^{-1}\frac{da}{a} which looks hideous. Do I then stick this into the second term on the RHS of the integral? and then integrate by parts?

Yes, integrate by parts
$$\int u dv = uv - \int v du$$
with ##u=(H^{-1}/a)( d(H^{-1})/dt)## and ##v=a##. The integrated part gives the expression that you were asked to show. The remaining integral is a mess of time derivatives that you should be able to argue is much smaller than the leading term.
 
Ahh thank you! Will have a work through it and see what happens.
 
Ok, so I've looked at it, and something doesn't seem quite right, I am integrating over da, and so if I set v=a, then dv=da but then what happens to my da and what happens to the second a in the integral?
 
smallgirl said:
Ok, so I've looked at it, and something doesn't seem quite right, I am integrating over da, and so if I set v=a, then dv=da but then what happens to my da and what happens to the second a in the integral?

You've got a stray ##1/a##, so let me back up a step to where we had
$$ \int a~d\left(H^{-1}\right) = \int a~\frac{d\left(H^{-1}\right)}{dt} dt = \int \frac{d\left(H^{-1}\right)}{dt} H^{-1} da. $$
We have to integrate this by parts, which gives
$$ \int \frac{d\left(H^{-1}\right)}{dt} H^{-1} da = \frac{d\left(H^{-1}\right)}{dt} H^{-1} a- \int a ~d\left( \frac{d\left(H^{-1}\right)}{dt} H^{-1} \right) .$$
The integrand on the RHS should be thought of as ## d(\cdots) = [ d(\cdots)/dt] dt##.
 
So I have now

\int \frac{d\left(H^{-1}\right)}{dt} H^{-1} da = \frac{d\left(H^{-1}\right)}{dt} H^{-1} a- \int a ~\frac{d}{dt}\left( \frac{d\left(H^{-1}\right)}{dt} H^{-1} \right)dt

And I want to integrate the integral on the RHS by parts. To do this, I (assume)
dv=a and

u=\frac{d}{dt}\Bigg(\frac{d(H^{-1})}{dt}H^{-1}\Bigg)
 
Whenever you have ##a dt## you want to rewrite it as ##H^{-1} da##. If you keep integrating by parts you get a series with terms like
$$\left( H^{-1} \frac{d}{dt} \right)^n H^{-1}.$$
This series is what you want to truncate to the first term.
 
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Thank you so much, after doing the integrals about 4 times to see the series appear, I was able to see what I wanted. Thank you so much for your help and patience.
 
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