What is the Derivative of a Cross Product?

In summary, the conversation discusses the process of finding the derivative of a cross product and how to simplify it using the product rule. The final solution includes an additional factor of m that was initially overlooked. The conversation ends with the problem being solved.
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plmokn2
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[SOLVED] derivative of a cross product

Homework Statement


In some lecture notes I'm reading they jump straight from [tex] \frac{d}{d\mathbf{r}}( \frac{m}{2} |\mathbf{\omega}\times\mathbf{r}|^2)[/tex]
to
[tex]\mathbf{r}\omega^2-\mathbf{\omega}(\mathbf{\omega}.\mathbf{r})[/tex]


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



It's easy to check this by writing out each component but this is messy so there's probably an easier way to do it. Any help appreciated.
Thanks
 
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plmokn2 said:

Homework Statement


In some lecture notes I'm reading they jump straight from [tex] \frac{d}{d\mathbf{r}}( \frac{m}{2} |\mathbf{\omega}\times\mathbf{r}|^2)[/tex]
to
[tex]\mathbf{r}\omega^2-\mathbf{\omega}(\mathbf{\omega}.\mathbf{r})[/tex]
Surely not! There must be an m/2 in there!
Ignoring the constant m/2, [itex]|\omega\times r|^2= (\omega\times r)\cdot(\omega\times\r)[/itex]. Take the derivative of that, apply the product rule- which is true, for vectors, for both dot product and cross product: [itex](\vec{u}\cdot\vec{v})'= \vec{u} '\cdot\vec{v}+ \vec{u}\cdot\vec{v} '[/itex] and [itex](\vec{u}\times\vec{v})'= \vec{u} '\times\vec{v}+ \vec{u}\times\vec{v} '[/itex].
 
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opps I forgot an m in the answer: sorry.

Thanks, I've solved it now.
 

1. What is the derivative of a cross product?

The derivative of a cross product is a vector that represents the rate of change of the original cross product with respect to a given variable. It is also known as the gradient of the cross product.

2. How do you find the derivative of a cross product?

To find the derivative of a cross product, you can use the product rule from calculus. This involves taking the derivative of each individual component of the cross product and then combining them using vector addition.

3. What is the relationship between the derivative of a cross product and its components?

The derivative of a cross product is a vector that is perpendicular to both of its original components. This is known as the vector triple product identity.

4. Can the derivative of a cross product be simplified?

Yes, the derivative of a cross product can be simplified by using the properties of vector operations, such as the distributive and associative properties. This can help make the expression more manageable and easier to work with.

5. What are some real-world applications of the derivative of a cross product?

The derivative of a cross product is commonly used in physics and engineering to calculate the angular velocity and angular acceleration of rotating objects. It is also used in computer graphics to create realistic 3D animations and simulations.

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