Derivative of complex exponential differs by a sign

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I know this is probably the least of my worries at the moment but my quantum textbook solves ##\frac{\mathrm{d}\phi (t) }{\mathrm{d} t}=\frac{iC}{h}\phi (t) ## as ##\phi (t) = e^{-i(\frac{C}{h})t}##. Is this not off by a sign? Its really bugging me.
 
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And the h is really h bar but I don't know the latex code for it
 
Summer95 said:
I know this is probably the least of my worries at the moment but my quantum textbook solves ##\frac{\mathrm{d}\phi (t) }{\mathrm{d} t}=\frac{iC}{h}\phi (t) ## as ##\phi (t) = e^{-i(\frac{C}{h})t}##. Is this not off by a sign? Its really bugging me.
I don't see how they got the minus sign. Can you post a picture of the textbook page?

Summer95 said:
And the h is really h bar but I don't know the latex code for it
\hbar -- ##\hbar##
 
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Write ## i\hbar\frac{1}{\phi}\frac{d\phi}{dt} = C ## as ## \frac{d}{dt}\ln\phi = \frac{C}{i\hbar} ##. Now multiply the RHS by one in disguise as ## \frac{i}{i}\frac{C}{i\hbar} = \frac{iC}{i^2\hbar} = -\frac{iC}{\hbar} ##. We get ## \frac{d}{dt}\ln\phi = -\frac{iC}{\hbar} ##. Integrate both sides to get ## \ln\phi = -\frac{iCt}{\hbar} + A ##, where ## A ## is some constant. Finally, exponentiate both sides to get ## \phi = Be^{-\frac{iCt}{\hbar}} ##, where ## B ## is a constant.
 
Geofleur said:
Write ## i\hbar\frac{1}{\phi}\frac{d\phi}{dt} = C ## as ## \frac{d}{dt}\ln\phi = \frac{C}{i\hbar} ##. Now multiply the RHS by one in disguise as ## \frac{i}{i}\frac{C}{i\hbar} = \frac{iC}{i^2\hbar} = -\frac{iC}{\hbar} ##. We get ## \frac{d}{dt}\ln\phi = -\frac{iC}{\hbar} ##. Integrate both sides to get ## \ln\phi = -\frac{iCt}{\hbar} + A ##, where ## A ## is some constant. Finally, exponentiate both sides to get ## \phi = Be^{-\frac{iCt}{\hbar}} ##, where ## B ## is a constant.

I don't think the problem was how to solve the differential equation, but rather how the text went from one DE to another. In the image of post #4, the text has
$$i\hbar\frac 1 {\phi(t)} \frac{d \phi(t)}{dt} = C \text{ or } \frac{d \phi(t)}{dt} = \frac{iC}{\hbar} \phi(t)$$

@Summer95, I believe the text is being a little sloppy here -- C in the left equation isn't the same as C in the right equation; the two differ by a sign. That's what I think is going on here.
 
If the ## C## is the same the second equation needs a minus in front the right side ... ( in any case the disjunction is true and also the solution given)
 
Oh I see! Oops... :oops:
 
Mark44 said:
I don't think the problem was how to solve the differential equation, but rather how the text went from one DE to another. In the image of post #4, the text has@Summer95, I believe the text is being a little sloppy here -- C in the left equation isn't the same as C in the right equation; the two differ by a sign. That's what I think is going on here.
ok I see now, of course. thank you!
 
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