Derive \dot v: A Thermo Relation for V, m and v

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In summary, the conversation discussed the result of deriving both sides of an equation in respect to time. The quotient rule was mentioned, giving the equation dv/dt = {mdV/dt - Vdm/dt}/m2. The conversation also mentioned the use of this equation in thermodynamics, specifically in open systems to calculate mass and volumetric flow. The question was raised about the existence of a specific volume in this equation and it was concluded that it depends on how the derivative is done.
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I'd like to know the result of deriving both sides of the equation in respect to time

[itex] v= \frac {V}{m} [/itex]

[itex] \frac {d}{dt}v=( \frac {d}{dt}) \frac {V}{m} [/itex]

which gives

[itex] \dot v = . . . ? [/itex]

If you want some backup, this is a very common thermodynamics relation, where V = volume, m = mass and v = specific volume [m3/kg]. In open systems, we want to know mass flow and volumetric flow so we get [itex] \dot m[/itex] [kg/s] and [itex] \dot V[/itex] [m3/s]. I'd like to know if there's such a thing about specific volume as well, and that depends on how you do that derivative.

Best wishes and thanks,

An1MuS
 
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The quotient rule applies: dv/dt = {mdV/dt - Vdm/dt}/m2
 

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1. What is the purpose of "Derive \dot v: A Thermo Relation for V, m and v"?

"Derive \dot v: A Thermo Relation for V, m and v" is a scientific equation used in thermodynamics to calculate the change in volume of a substance (v) over time (t). It takes into account the substance's mass (m) and specific volume (V) to determine the rate at which its volume is changing.

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The equation is derived using principles of thermodynamics, specifically the First Law of Thermodynamics and the Ideal Gas Law. It involves manipulating and rearranging these equations to solve for the change in volume (v) over time (t).

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