Deriving Distance Modulus: m - M = 5log(d/10)

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The discussion focuses on deriving the distance modulus formula, m - M = 5log(d/10). It highlights the relationship between this formula and the apparent magnitude equation, suggesting that both are connected through stellar luminosity and distance. The distance modulus is explained as a result of the definition that a difference of five magnitudes corresponds to a brightness change of 100 times. The conversation clarifies that solar-based formulas are not essential for the derivation. Ultimately, the key takeaway is that absolute magnitude represents the apparent magnitude at a distance of 10 parsecs.
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Distance modulus derivation

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I was wondering if anyone can help me, I am hoping to show a derivation of the distance modulus

m - M = 5log(d/10)



It looks very similar to the m = m(sun) - 2.5log((L/L(sun)).(r(sun)/r)^2) so I'm assuming that they are somehow related but I'm not sure how exactly (ie: I can't find anything that says how - I'm guessing that the equation for absolute magnitude is similar and then the subtraction cancels out all the unknowns and sun values).
 
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The distance modulus is derived from the formula for radiant flux as a function of stellar luminosity and distance, as well as the definition of five magnitudes being a difference in observed brightness of 100x.

The solar versions of the formulae are just that, forumlae formulated with the sun in mind. They are not fundamental and will not serve any purpose in the derivation.
 
Ahh yeah I worked it out now...


m1 - m2 = 2.5log(F1/F2)


Just needed to be reminded that absolute magnitude is what the apparent magnitude would be at a distance of 10 parsecs...
 
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