Deriving Lorentz Transformation

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The discussion focuses on deriving the Lorentz Transformation using length contraction and time dilation equations. The participant initially connects length contraction to the position transformation, suggesting that distance shortens by a factor of γ. However, they express confusion about the term ux/c² in the time transformation. Another contributor clarifies that this term arises from the relativity of simultaneity, which is essential for deriving the Lorentz Transformation. Ultimately, the participant successfully derives the transformation after understanding the necessary concepts.
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Homework Statement


How can we derive Lorentz Transformation using the length contraction and time dilation equations of relativity ?

Homework Equations


##γ = 1/ (\sqrt{1-u^2/c^2})##
##t = t_0γ##
##L = L_0/γ##

The Attempt at a Solution


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In position Lorentz Transformation calculations, simply I thought that the distance will get shorter since there's length contraction.
So in galilean transformation the position transformation is ##x= x_0-ut##. So this "length" will get shorther by the amount of ##γ##.
So we have ##x = γ(x_0-ut)##

For the time part I am kind of stuck. I didnt understand where the ##ux/c^2## comes from.
 
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Arman777 said:

Homework Statement


How can we derive Lorentz Transformation using the length contraction and time dilation equations of relativity ?

Homework Equations


##γ = 1/ (\sqrt{1-u^2/c^2})##
##t = t_0γ##
##L = L_0/γ##

The Attempt at a Solution


[/B]
In position Lorentz Transformation calculations, simply I thought that the distance will get shorter since there's length contraction.
So in galilean transformation the position transformation is ##x= x_0-ut##. So this "length" will get shorther by the amount of ##γ##.
So we have ##x = γ(x_0-ut)##

For the time part I am kind of stuck. I didnt understand where the ##ux/c^2## comes from.

That term is from the relativity of simultaneity. You need that as well to derive Lorentz.
 
PeroK said:
That term is from the relativity of simultaneity. You need that as well to derive Lorentz.
But how. How can I derive it ?
 
Arman777 said:
But how. How can I derive it ?
You have to derive the "leading clocks lag" rule and using this along with time dilation and length contraction you can derive Lorentz.
 
okay I manage to derive it thanks.
 
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