Describing the motion of a graph.

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The discussion centers around a kinematics problem involving a graph that depicts motion. The original poster seeks to describe the motion and calculate the average velocity over the entire duration represented in the graph.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the definition of average velocity and its calculation based on changes in position and time. Questions arise regarding whether the average velocity could be negative and how to describe the motion depicted in the graph.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering insights into the calculation of average velocity and discussing the implications of the graph's trend. There is a recognition of the need to define the direction of motion based on the chosen positive x direction. Multiple interpretations of the motion are being explored, particularly regarding the average velocity and its sign.

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There is an emphasis on not providing equations directly, and participants are encouraged to think critically about the definitions and implications of average velocity in relation to the graph. The discussion includes considerations of how to describe the motion qualitatively.

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Hi i have a graph given in kinematics. I need to describe the motion and calculate the average velocity during the entire duration. I have attached a picture. How would i calculate the average velocity



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I said that the velocity is not constant. I don't know if the average velocity woul dbe negative?
 

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How would you define average velocity?

[itex]\Delta v = \frac{\Delta x}{\Delta t}[/itex]

Something like that, yes?
Use that definition, what comes out?
 
Thanks for your reply. But would the average velocity be negative looking at the trend of the graph? And how would i describe this motion?
 
From your graph, it looks like x is 25 when t is about 2 and x is about 2 when t= 30. So what are [itex]\Delta x[/itex], [itex]\Delta t[/itex], and [itex]\Delta x/\Delta t[/itex]?
 
If you apply the definition of the average velocity you will see that it is negative since the change in position is definitely negative (it seems to start at some high x and ends up at x=0)
So yes, the average velocity of would be negative.

To describe the motion, we could look at the average velocity between different times and see how they relate.

Between t=10 and t=20 the position has gone from x=15 to x=5, so the average velocity during this time is given as'

[itex]\Delta v = \frac{\Delta x}{\Delta t} = \frac{-10}{10} = -1[/itex]

If we look at the average velocity at some later time, say t=20 and t=30 the position has gone from x=5 to perhaps x~2 and so

[itex]\Delta v = \frac{\Delta x}{\Delta t} = \frac{-3}{10} = -0.3[/itex]

So we can see that the average velocity is decreasing as time increases.
We can also see that the position is finally going to reach x=0 as t gets to be quite big.

We could describe this by saying that the position 'asymptotes' to x=0 for large t and that the velocity also 'asymptotes' to 0 for large t.

Do you understand my reasoning here?
 
Yes but what is the general description of this motion. Like is the object moving in an westward direction?
 
koolkidx45 said:
Yes but what is the general description of this motion. Like is the object moving in an westward direction?

That depends on what direction you want to set as the positive x direction.
If you set west as your positive x direction then you're moving westward, if you set north as your positive x direction then you're moving northward.
It is completely up to you which direction you set positive x to be facing
 
I would say that approximatey 25m was covered in approximately 30 to 40 secs.
So the only sensible answer for me is that the average velocity is between 25/30 and 25/40 m/s
ie 0.83m/s and 0.63m/s
 

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