Describing the Motion of a String at the Antinodes

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The discussion focuses on the motion of a string at adjacent antinodes in a standing wave. It clarifies that while the antinodes appear to move up and down, they are actually out of phase with each other, with a phase difference of π (half a cycle). Participants emphasize the importance of visualizing the string's motion and understanding the relationship between the solid and dashed lines in their sketches. The conversation concludes with a confirmation that the antinodes are indeed moving out of phase. This understanding is crucial for accurately describing the dynamics of standing waves.
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Homework Statement


How would you describe the motion of a string at two adjacent antinodes?

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So would the antinodes not be moving since it's a standing wave? Or would they be moving in phase because they are propagating together?
 
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I suggest making a little sketch of what it looks like.
Can you imagine a snapshot of the string?
 
So this is what I have, the two ends of the "string" are clamped. When the wave is in action, the antinode will move up and down. But the question asks about the motion relating two adjacent antinodes. Does that mean the antinodes are not moving?
 

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thatguy4000 said:
But the question asks about the motion relating two adjacent antinodes
So mark an adjacent antinode, showing where it will be at the same time as the antinode position that you marked.
Where will each be a half period later?
 
Also, study the figure that you posted in #3. If you look at two adjacent antinodes, one is on the solid line and one on the dashed line. How do you interpret this?
 
haruspex said:
So mark an adjacent antinode, showing where it will be at the same time as the antinode position that you marked.
Where will each be a half period later?
One antinode point would be up and one would be down. Would that mean they are in phase though?
 
kuruman said:
Also, study the figure that you posted in #3. If you look at two adjacent antinodes, one is on the solid line and one on the dashed line. How do you interpret this?
The solid line is where the string is physically. The dashed line is where the string will be in half a cycle. How does this relate to phase?
 
thatguy4000 said:
The solid line is where the string is physically. The dashed line is where the string will be in half a cycle. How does this relate to phase?
That's what phase is - the fraction of a cycle difference in being at a given stage, where a whole cycle is a 2π phase difference.
 
Ok, that's what I thought. So then I answered they're moving with pi/2 phase difference but I got it wrong. The other options are not moving, moving in phase, and moving out of phase.
 
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thatguy4000 said:
Ok, that's what I thought. So then I answered they're moving with pi/2 phase difference but I got it wrong. The other options are not moving, moving in phase, and moving out of phase.
If 2π is one cycle, what is half a cycle?
 
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Oh my gawd. I'm so dumb. Half a cycle is just pi so they're moving out of phase?
 
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thatguy4000 said:
Oh my gawd. I'm so dumb. Half a cycle is just pi so they're moving out of phase?
Yes. To the last statement.
 
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thatguy4000 said:
Oh my gawd. I'm so dumb. Half a cycle is just pi so they're moving out of phase?
Well done.
 
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