Designing a Heat/Fire-Resistant Safe for Data Protection

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The discussion centers around designing a fire and heat-protective "safe" specifically for electronic media, with a focus on maintaining minimal heat gain inside while keeping wall thickness under 3 inches. The proposed construction includes layers of steel, gypsum, and Thermafiber insulation. Participants emphasize the importance of professional fire protection ratings, suggesting that a DIY safe may not provide adequate security compared to commercially available options. There are also suggestions to consider alternative locations for the safe, such as a basement sump pump basin, to avoid exposure to heat during a fire. Overall, the consensus leans toward the idea that a professionally manufactured safe is likely a better investment for protecting valuable items.
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Help. I need help in designing a "safe" that gives me heat and fire protection. I will be using an skins of steel and need help in selecting the core materials. I am trying to protect electronic media so the heat gain inside has to be close to minimal. I am also trying to keep overall wall thickness to 3" or less.

I have looked at a 1/16" steel, 1/2" gysum, 1" of Thermafiber Kfac SR (http://www.thermafiber.com/PDFs/TF668c.pdf ), 1" of foam insulation, 1/2" gypsum and an inner skin of 1/16" steel. This is not so much a safe but a data protection cabinet.

Thanks for your help.

Tom Fischetti
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Put it under water, in a sump pump basin, below floor level in your basement.
 
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Tom, I was only trying to help. I don't know a better way to provide thermal protection, other than gypsum or concrete, so my suggestion was to locate your safe in a place where it wouldn't be subjected to the heat in the first place. I'm sorry that you took this as sarcasm, it wasn't meant that way. -Mike
 
what is it you are trying to heatsink?

you should look into microprocessor heatsinks, methods of heatsinking for computer systems are highly advanced in my opinion...

there are also models and completed models of water-based heatsinks, to support Sewell's solution...

check it out->

http://www.a1-electronics.net/Heatsinks/2003/Thermtake_AquII_Jan03.shtml
 
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I wouldn't trust anything important to a safe you made yourself. Real fire protection safes are rated for time and temperature. And putting it underwater in your basement is not unreasonable - your house could burn to the ground and smolder for days and the safe would survive.

Elibol - swing and a miss.
 
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I wouldn't trust anything important to a safe you made yourself. Real fire protection safes are rated for time and temperature. And putting it underwater in your basement is not unreasonable - your house could burn to the ground and smolder for days and the safe would survive.

Elibol - swing and a miss.

My thoughts exactly.

If you are wanting to actually protect something of value, you could not build a safe, that will actually do the job, for less then you could buy a professionally designed and manufactured one off the shelf.
 
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uhh, yea i knew that... doh...

:D
 
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