Determine the total charge on the surface?

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The problem involves a hollow metal sphere with inner and outer radii, containing a solid metal sphere at its center. The electric fields at specific points are given, and the task is to determine the total charge on the surfaces of the inner and outer spheres.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of the electric field directions at points P and Q, questioning how these relate to the charges on the spheres.
  • There is a focus on applying Gauss's law to determine the total charge enclosed by spherical surfaces.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the relationship between the electric field and the charge distribution on the spheres.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring the problem, with some guidance provided on using Gauss's law to find the charge on the inner sphere. There is an ongoing discussion about the implications of the electric fields at different points and how they relate to the charges on the inner and outer surfaces of the hollow sphere.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of the problem statement and the specific electric field values provided. There is an acknowledgment that the charge on the inner sphere does not vary with the electric field at different points.

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Homework Statement



A hollow metal sphere has inner and outer radii of 20.0 cm and 30.0 cm, respectively. As shown in the figure, a solid metal sphere of radius 10.0 cm is located at the center of the hollow sphere. The electric field at a point P, a distance of 15.0 cm from the center, is found to be E1 = 1.53·104 N/C, directed radially inward. At point Q, a distance of 35.0 cm from the center, the electric field is found to be E2 = 1.53·104 N/C, directed radially outward.

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a) Determine the total charge on the surface of the inner sphere.
b) Determine the total charge on the surface of the inner surface of the hollow sphere.
c) Determine the total charge on the surface of the outer surface of the hollow sphere.


Homework Equations



∫∫\vec{E} * \vec{dA} = \frac{q_{enc}}{E_{0}}



The Attempt at a Solution



For part (a), I believe that the charge on the inner sphere from point P would be negative, since it is directed radially inward, while the charge on the inner sphere from point Q would be positive.
If I plug in the values into the equation above, then add them together, would I arrive at the correct answer?

I am still working on part (b) and (c), but want to make sure that I've set up part (a) correctly first.
 
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nuagerose said:
For part (a), I believe that the charge on the inner sphere from point P would be negative, since it is directed radially inward, while the charge on the inner sphere from point Q would be positive.
If I plug in the values into the equation above, then add them together, would I arrive at the correct answer?
Charge of inner sphere doesn't change with respect to different points. So 'charge on sphere from P' this statement is wrong. It is only electric field that changes.
Gauss law gives total charge enclosed by a surface. So for a spherical gaussian surface concentric with inner sphere and radius 15 cm i.e. passing through p shall enclose what charge?
 
Enigman said:
Charge of inner sphere doesn't change with respect to different points. So 'charge on sphere from P' this statement is wrong. It is only electric field that changes.
Gauss law gives total charge enclosed by a surface. So for a spherical gaussian surface concentric with inner sphere and radius 15 cm i.e. passing through p shall enclose what charge?

For the outer spherical shell, would it enclose the charge of the inner sphere?

Also, given your explanation, I can then use the known electric field value at point P to calculate the charge of the inner sphere? From there, how do I work toward the charges on the inner and outer surfaces of the outer shell? I think that the inner surface of the outer shell would be the same as the charge of the inner sphere, correct?
 
nuagerose said:
For the outer spherical shell, would it enclose the charge of the inner sphere?
Yep.
Also, given your explanation, I can then use the known electric field value at point P to calculate the charge of the inner sphere?
Yep.
From there, how do I work toward the charges on the inner and outer surfaces of the outer shell? I think that the inner surface of the outer shell would be the same as the charge of the inner sphere, correct?
Yeah, but you will need to prove that.Oh, and welcome to PF!
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