Determining orthonormal states to a non-zero inner product

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Hi everyone,

I was attempting the following past paper question below:

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I have found a value for the coefficient c and I think I have calculated the inner product of <x|x>. I've attached my workings below. But I'm not sure what to do next to answer the last part of the question which asks about finding an orthonormal state to |b>. Am I right to say that <a|a> and <b|b> are equal to one or is my <x|x> calculation wrong?

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Is it really necessary to make this assumption ? You already made use of it in the first part, when you said ##C\langle b|b\rangle = C## !

What if ##|a\rangle## and ##|b\rangle## are not normalized ?
 
BvU said:
What if ##|a\rangle## and ##|b\rangle## are not normalized ?
One might argue that if they are quantum states, then that implies they are normalized.
 
I've had a think about it and would I be right in saying that the state |x> / <x|x> would be orthonormal to |b>?
 
electrogeek said:
I've had a think and would I be right in saying that the state |x>/<x|x> would be orthonormal to |b>?
If ##|x \rangle## is orthogonal to ##|b \rangle##, then the normalized state ##\frac{|x \rangle}{\langle x|x \rangle^{1/2}}## must be orthogonal to ##|b \rangle##.

Your term "orthonormal to ##|b \rangle##" has no meaning.

There is, however, one exceptional case that you should have picked up on. What happens if ##1 - S^2 = 0##?
 
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Would |x> / sqrt(<x|x>) both normalised and orthogonal to |b> then instead?
 
electrogeek said:
Would |x> / sqrt(<x|x>) both normalised and orthogonal to |b> then instead?
Yes, you're right it should be the square root there. I'll change it.

PS it's a strange question since: a) everything works with ##S = 0##; b) it works perfectly well with ##S, c## as complex numbers; c) It doesn't work with ##|S| = 1##, which is the case where ##|a \rangle## and ##|b \rangle## are the same state (up to a phase factor).

It shouldn't have been "non-zero ##S##", it should have been ##|S| \ne 1## in the question.
 
PeroK said:
Yes, you're right it should be the square root there. I'll change it.

PS it's a strange question since: a) everything works with ##S = 0##; b) it works perfectly well with ##S, c## as complex numbers; c) It doesn't work with ##|S| = 1##, which is the case where ##|a \rangle## and ##|b \rangle## are the same state (up to a phase factor).

It shouldn't have been "non-zero ##S##", it should have been ##|S| \ne 1##.

Ah brilliant! Thanks for the help. :)
 
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