Difference between voltage and voltage drop?

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The discussion focuses on the calculation of power loss in a power line delivering 440 kW at 12,000 volts through 3-ohm lines. The correct method to determine power loss is using the formula P_loss = I^2R, where the current (I) is calculated as 36.67 A, resulting in a power loss of 4,033 W. Confusion arises regarding the distinction between voltage and voltage drop, with emphasis on the fact that voltage drop must be considered across the line rather than using the supply voltage directly. It is clarified that the voltage at a single point cannot be used to calculate power loss, as it requires the difference between supply and load voltage. Understanding these concepts is crucial for accurately assessing power loss in electrical systems.
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Homework Statement


A power station delivers 440 kW of power through 3 ohm lines. How much power is wasted if it is delievered at 12000v?

Homework Equations


v=IR
P=I^2R
P=IV



The Attempt at a Solution


I believe you are supposed to solve it like this but I do not understand why:

I=P/V = 440000/12000=36.67 A
P lost =I^2R=(36.67)^2 (3) = 4033 W

But my gut instict tells me to do this which I believe is wrong from what I've read:

P=V^2/R = (12000)^2/3 = 4.8 x 10^7 W
P lost = P - Pused = (4.8 x 10^7 - 440000) =4.756 x 10^7W

I think I'm getting confused with what "V" is. I keep googling it and all I can tell is that I don't understand the different between voltage and voltage drop. I'm not clear what either is. Could anyone please explain?

Why does P=I^2R give you the power lost rather than the original power (440 kW) or the power used?
 
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You cannot talk about voltage at a single point, you can only talk about a change in voltage. You'll notice that V = Ed, this is the difference in potential between the distance d.Power is a change in energy and obvious way to look at it is to say that if there is a change in energy it has to be a negative since the resistor will heat up.
 
VenaCava said:
But my gut instict tells me to do this which I believe is wrong from what I've read:

P=V^2/R = (12000)^2/3 = 4.8 x 10^7 W
P lost = P - Pused = (4.8 x 10^7 - 440000) =4.756 x 10^7W

No you are wrong. You cannot use V=12000V for calculating power loss P_{loss} in line. You have use the voltage drop across the line to find P_{loss}.
Since we don't know that, (It is equal to difference between voltage at supply end (V_{s}) and voltage at load end (12000V). Since we don't know V_{s}, but we know current through the line, we can find power lost directly from the relation
P_{loss}=I^{2}R[/tex]
 
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