Differential equation 5y4y' = x2y' + 2xy

In summary, the homework statement is trying to find the general solution of: (5y4y'=x2y'+2xy) with an equation that can be simplified.
  • #1
astrofunk21
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Homework Statement


Find the general solution of:

5y4y' = x2y' + 2xy


2. The attempt at a solution

Well I've so far tried to simplify by making the equation really:

(5y4-x2)y' - 2xy = 0

Now this will let us use exact equations such as:

N(x,y)= 5y4-x2
and
M(x,y)= -2xy

since ∂N=∂M

After this though I am not sure what to do.
 
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If you have ##\Phi(x,y)=0##, when you differentiate it, you get
$$\frac{\partial\Phi}{\partial x}dx + \frac{\partial\Phi}{\partial y}dy = 0.$$ Compare that to what you have
$$(-2xy)\,dx + (5y^4-x^2)\,dy = 0.$$ How would you (partially) recover ##\Phi## from M(x,y) or N(x,y)?
 
  • #3


vela said:
If you have ##\Phi(x,y)=0##, when you differentiate it, you get
$$\frac{\partial\Phi}{\partial x}dx + \frac{\partial\Phi}{\partial y}dy = 0.$$ Compare that to what you have
$$(-2xy)\,dx + (5y^4-x^2)\,dy = 0.$$ How would you (partially) recover ##\Phi## from M(x,y) or N(x,y)?

I then took the integral of M(x,y) thus giving me f-x2y

Correct or no?
 
  • #4


That's good, so you have ##\Phi=-x^2y + f(y)##. Now differentiate that with respect to y and compare the result to N(x,y).
 
  • #5


vela said:
That's good, so you have ##\Phi=-x^2y + f(y)##. Now differentiate that with respect to y and compare the result to N(x,y).

finding the solution to the f(y) gives us y5 then plugging this into the integral part we get a solution of:

F(x,y) = y5-x2y

Is that it?
 
  • #6
Could you help with another? The differential equation is:

y' = 2(xy' + y)y3
 
  • #7
Almost. You just need to include the constant of integration.
 
  • #8
vela said:
Almost. You just need to include the constant of integration.

F(x,y) = y5-x2y + C ?
 
  • #9
Yup, that's right, and F(x,y) should be set to 0. Remember you're trying to find y(x), not F(x,y). F(x,y)=0 specifies y implicitly as a function of x.
 
  • #10
vela said:
Yup, that's right, and F(x,y) should be set to 0. Remember you're trying to find y(x), not F(x,y). F(x,y)=0 specifies y implicitly as a function of x.

Thanks! Could you help with the other equation I posted? This one I don't even have a clue how to start
 
  • #11
You could start by checking if it's exact.
 
  • #12
No it's not, I got

N=1-2xy3
and
M=-2y4

which their partials don't equal each other
 
  • #13
In that case, try finding an integrating factor that'll make it exact.
 
  • #14
astrofunk21 said:
Could you help with another? The differential equation is:

y' = 2(xy' + y)y3

It would have been better to start a new thread for this new problem.

(xy' + y) is d(xy)/dx .

See if you can use that.
 

Related to Differential equation 5y4y' = x2y' + 2xy

1. What is a differential equation?

A differential equation is a mathematical equation that relates a function to its derivatives. It is used to model various physical phenomena in the natural and social sciences.

2. How do you solve a differential equation?

The solution to a differential equation involves finding a function that satisfies the equation. This can be done through various methods such as separation of variables, substitution, or using specific techniques for different types of equations.

3. What is the order of a differential equation?

The order of a differential equation is the highest derivative present in the equation. In the given equation, the order is 1 since the highest derivative is y'.

4. What does the term "homogeneous" mean in a differential equation?

A homogeneous differential equation is one where all terms contain the dependent variable and its derivatives, with no other independent variable. In the given equation, it is not homogeneous because it contains the term "x" which is independent of "y" and its derivatives.

5. What is the significance of a solution to a differential equation?

A solution to a differential equation represents a relationship between the dependent and independent variables that accurately describes a physical phenomenon. It can be used to make predictions and analyze the behavior of the system being modeled.

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