Differential equation: distinct, real roots

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Homework Statement


Find the general solution by using either the "distinct, real roots" theorem or the "repeated roots" theorem.

9y'' - 12y' + 4y = 0


Homework Equations


"distinct, real roots" theorem - "If our roots are real & distinct, we should have solutions y1=er1x and y2=erxx, so y(x) = c1er1x + c2r2x is the general solution.
"repeated roots" theorem - "If our roots are r1=r2, then the general solution is y(x) = (c1+c2x)er1x.


The Attempt at a Solution


9y'' - 12y' + 4y = 0
9r2 - 12r + 4 = 0
Using the quadratic formula, I got r = 2/3.
I'm confused because I only have one r. For the "distinct, real roots" theorem, the general solution is y(x) = c1er1x + c2r2x, so what do I do with just my one r? Do I just leave out the second part of the general solution? Or do I use the "repeated roots" theorem since I only have one r and that general solution only includes one r?
 
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mbradar2 said:

Homework Statement


Find the general solution by using either the "distinct, real roots" theorem or the "repeated roots" theorem.

9y'' - 12y' + 4y = 0


Homework Equations


"distinct, real roots" theorem - "If our roots are real & distinct, we should have solutions y1=er1x and y2=erxx, so y(x) = c1er1x + c2r2x is the general solution.
"repeated roots" theorem - "If our roots are r1=r2, then the general solution is y(x) = (c1+c2x)er1x.


The Attempt at a Solution


9y'' - 12y' + 4y = 0
9r2 - 12r + 4 = 0
Using the quadratic formula, I got r = 2/3.
If you factored the equation above, you would get 9(x - 2/3)(x - 2/3) = 0. There are two roots. Are they distinct?
mbradar2 said:
I'm confused because I only have one r. For the "distinct, real roots" theorem, the general solution is y(x) = c1er1x + c2r2x, so what do I do with just my one r? Do I just leave out the second part of the general solution? Or do I use the "repeated roots" theorem since I only have one r and that general solution only includes one r?
 
Oh. I wasn't sure how to factor it so I just used the quadratic formula. So in order to get a correct answer, in this case the "repeated roots" theorem, I can't use the quadratic formula but have to factor?
 
No, you can use the quadratic formula - you just need to recognize when you are getting repeated roots. In this case, with the characteristic equation being 9r^2 - 12r + 4 = 0, the quadratic formula gives
r = (12 +/- sqrt(144 - 144))/18, so you have r = 2/3 +/- 0. So there's a repeated root, which happens whenever the discriminant (the part in the radical) is zero.
 
Ah, I see. Thanks so much for your help! :)
 
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