Differential equation simplification

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The discussion revolves around simplifying a differential equation related to the motion of an object falling towards Earth, specifically transforming it into two first-order differential equations suitable for numerical methods, such as the fourth-order Runge-Kutta method. The context involves gravitational effects and parameters like gravitational acceleration and Earth's radius.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to convert a second-order differential equation into two first-order equations. One participant suggests defining a new variable for velocity to facilitate this transformation. Others reflect on their previous attempts and express surprise at the simplicity of the proposed approach.

Discussion Status

The discussion is progressing with participants sharing insights on how to reformulate the problem. One participant has expressed gratitude for the clarification and intends to apply the suggested method, while another has provided guidance on implementing the Runge-Kutta method with the newly formed equations.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the original poster's lack of formal education in differential equations, which may influence their understanding and approach to the problem. Additionally, specific values for gravitational acceleration and Earth's radius are provided, which may affect the simplification process.

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Hi guys! It's my first post here... I'm in a Computer Science degree, where courses dealing with differential equations are not mandatory (and I have therefore not completed any), and was asked to solve the following problem using the fourth-order Runge-Kutta method, coded in FORTRAN. I obviously have no difficulties with the latter, but I'm COMPLETELY CLUELESS about the mathematical juggling necessary to simplify the equation I will describe below. Any help will be greatly appreciated! :D

Homework Statement


It is known that all small bodies are attracted towards Earth due to gravitation. To solve the problem, you must simplify the following differential equation and obtain two first-order differential equations. Apply the formulas given by fourth-order Runge-Kutta to find speed y'(t) and position y(t). How long does it take the object to fall?

Homework Equations



The equation that describes the movement of an object falling towards Earth is

[tex]\ddot{y}(t)=-g \frac{R^2}{y^2}[/tex],

where g is gravitational acceleration, and R is the radius of the Earth.

Take [tex]g=\frac{32}{5280}[/tex], [tex]R=4000[/tex] and [tex]H=200000[/tex] (H is the height from which the object will be dropped).

The Attempt at a Solution


I've tried to integrate both sides of the equation, but cannot obtain a polynomial expression needed to apply RK4.

Cheers!
 
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If you need to split it into two first degree equations to apply a numerical method, then let w(t)=y'(t). Your two equations become w'(t)=-g*R^2/y^2 and, uh, y'(t)=w(t).
 
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Hahaha I can't believe the simplicity! I had been trying some exponential stuff... with no result. Thank you very much. I'll try this and post back.
 
Now that you have two first order equations, run two Runge-Kutta solvers simultaneously, using the values from both at each step.
 

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