Diffrential equations, integration factor with two vars

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The discussion centers on finding a condition for an integration factor of the form K(xy) for the differential equation M(x,y)dx + N(x,y)dy = 0, which is not exact. The user attempts to derive this by differentiating the product of K(xy) with M(x,y) and N(x,y). Clarifications are sought regarding the initial equation and the notation used, as well as the requirement for the equation to be exact after multiplication by the integration factor. The conversation includes a reference to a resource for integrating factors, emphasizing the need for specific conditions to achieve exactness. Overall, the thread highlights the complexities involved in applying integration factors to non-exact differential equations.
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1. I need to find a condition that the equation will have a integration factor from the shape K(x*y).
(K-integration factor sign)


2.the eq from the shape M(x,y)dx+N(x,y)dy=0 ,not have to be exact!3. i tried to open from the basics. d(k(x*y)M(x,y))/dy=d((k(x*y)N(x,y))/dx.
and i used the fact that d(k(x,y))/dy is x (exc. for dx)/

im hoping i was clear enough , thanks and sorry for my bad english.
 
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well, normally an integration factor will be of the form ##e^{\int P(x)}##
I'm confused by your notation, it seems as though you're setting up an exact function, or maybe that's what you're saying in 2: it's not an exact function?
 
barak said:
1. I need to find a condition that the equation will have a integration factor from the shape K(x*y).
(K-integration factor sign)
"the equation" -- What equation?
barak said:
2.the eq from the shape M(x,y)dx+N(x,y)dy=0 ,not have to be exact!3. i tried to open from the basics. d(k(x*y)M(x,y))/dy=d((k(x*y)N(x,y))/dx.
and i used the fact that d(k(x,y))/dy is x (exc. for dx)/

im hoping i was clear enough , thanks and sorry for my bad english.
It's not clear to me at all. What is the equation you're trying to solve?
 
@barak: Perhaps this link will help you:
http://www.cliffsnotes.com/math/differential-equations/first-order-equations/integrating-factors
 
The initial equation is M(x,y)dx+ N(x,y)dy= 0 and you multiply by k(xy) where k is some function of a single variable: k(xy)M(x, y)dx+ k(xy)N(x,y)dy= 0.
In order that this be "exact" we must have (k(xy)M(x, y))_y= (k(xy)N(x, y))_x.

xk'(xy)M(x,y)+ k(xy)M_y(x, y)= yk'(x,y)N(x,y)+ k(xy)N_x(x,y)

(xM(x,y)- yN(x,y))k'(xy)= k(xy)(N_x(x,y)- M_y(x,y)
 
thanks a lot guys u all helped me
 
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