Direction of a vector after I have already found magnitude

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The discussion revolves around finding the direction of a vector after its magnitude has been calculated. The problem involves determining the angle between the vector and the positive x-axis, given its x and y components.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the angle using the inverse tangent function and the implications of the signs of the vector components on the resulting angle. There is an exploration of quadrant placement and the need to adjust the angle based on the signs of the components.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on correctly applying the inverse tangent function and considering the quadrant of the vector. There is acknowledgment of the need to adjust the angle based on the calculated value to ensure it reflects the correct direction.

Contextual Notes

Participants note a typo in the original post regarding the y component, which is critical for accurate calculations. The discussion also highlights the limitations of the inverse tangent function in determining the correct quadrant without additional context.

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Homework Statement


The x component of vector is -16.2 m and the y component is +54.6 m. (a) What is the magnitude of ? (b) What is the angle (in radians) between the direction of and the positive direction of x?





Homework Equations


magnitude of vector is sqrt of a^2+b^2
direction of vector is tan theta= ay/ax


The Attempt at a Solution


I got A part correct by finding the magnitude using sqrt of a^2+b^2= 56.95m but i can't seem to get b part. i did inverse tan of 56.4m/-16.2m and got -1.28 radians and its wrong. HELP!
 
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You did 56.4/-16.2.
Your given info, however states that the y component is +54.6 m.

So:
inverse tan (54.6/-16.2) is your answer.
 
That was a typo. I have been calculating inverse tan of 54.6/-16.2 and get -1.28 which is wrong according to the automatic grader
 
The inverse tangent function cannot "tell" whether the negative sign is to be associated with the numerator or denominator in its argument; ##\frac{-y}{x}## is indistinguishable from ##\frac{y}{-x}##. It will return a value that is in the range -90 ≤ θ ≤ +90 degrees.

You need to apply some smarts regarding the signs of the given components in order to place the resulting vector in the correct quadrant; You may have to add or subtract 180° (##\pi## radians) from the value it gives you in order to "shift" the quadrant.

Alternatively, if your calculator has an atan2(y,x) function, then it'll handle the signs automatically. It may also have a "rectangular to polar" conversion capability which will both find the magnitude and the proper angle for you in one step.
 
oh ok so since -16.5 x and 54.6 y puts it in the 2nd quadrant the angle has to be between 90 and 180. -73.47 is in the 4th quadrant so by adding 180 to that and converting it to radians i get 1.855 radians which is correct!
 

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