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Directrix when talking about an ellipse?

  1. Mar 22, 2010 #1
    Hey what is the directrix when talking about an ellipse?

    I found a book that finally shed light on what eccentricity was, but there's still no mention of what the directrix is.

    To be honest, it doesn't even explain eccentricity but I intuitively understand it, however the directrix is something that I don't understand with reference to an ellipse, nor how to find it nor why anybody wants to.

    Perhaps you could shed some light on how to go about finding it.
     

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  3. Mar 23, 2010 #2
    Re: Directrix?

    If I am not mistaken, the directrix is not drawn in that figure. This might help.
     

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  4. Mar 23, 2010 #3
    Re: Directrix?

    Thanks, I know what the directrix is it's just that I don't know how to calculate it given an equation (nor why you'd even want to). I don't see the relationship to anything discussed when talking about ellipses (maybe why It took me so long to even see it in a book).

    Take an equation;

    [tex] \frac{x^2}{9} \ + \frac{y^2}{16} \ = \ 1 [/tex]

    I calculate the focus(es) to be;

    c = ±√(a² - b²) = ±√(16 - 9) = ±√7

    Where a is the semi-major axis (4²) and b is the semi-minor axis (3²) here.

    The eccentricity to be;

    e = c/a = (√7)/4

    But how do I calculate the directrix, and why would I want to?

    That's all I'd really like to know, if anybody knows why please let me know.

    thanks :)
     
  5. Mar 23, 2010 #4
    Re: Directrix?

    For an ellipse the equation of directrix is given by x=± a/e. It's been a while since I've studied them and its late here so I have to go to bed now :). I'll revise my course tomorrow and try to find out the answer to that tomorrow.
     
  6. Mar 23, 2010 #5
    Re: Directrix?

    Meanwhile this might help.
    "The directrix of a conic section is the line which, together with the point known as the focus, serves to define a conic section as the locus of points whose distance from the focus is proportional to the horizontal distance from the directrix, with r being the constant of proportionality. If the ratio r=1, the conic is a parabola, if r<1, it is an ellipse, and if r>1, it is a hyperbola"
     
  7. Mar 24, 2010 #6
    Re: Directrix?

    Thanks for your responses,

    After your reply I understand the following quote form wikipedia a little better;


    So I went ahead and made a "paint" ellipse and this is what came out of it;

    http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8403/directrix.jpg [Broken]

    Then I measured the ratio of the line from the focus to the point & the directrix to the point & you get the eccentricity.

    It all makes sense now!

    Thanks :biggrin: it all makes sense now...
     
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  8. Mar 24, 2010 #7
    Re: Directrix?

    Nice, here's another definition I found while looking for a better explanation.
    "A Conic is the set of all the points whose distance from a fixed point bears a constant ratio to its distance from a fixed line. The fixed point is called the focus, the fixed line is called the directrix and the constant ratio is known as the eccentricity of the conic."
     
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