Discover the Fastest Way to Analyze Electrical Circuits

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around analyzing electrical circuits, specifically focusing on finding the current in a given circuit and the implications of removing a resistor. Participants explore methods for efficient analysis and the conditions under which certain components can be disregarded without affecting the overall circuit behavior.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests writing a series of equations for node voltages and currents as the primary method for analysis, expressing doubt about quicker alternatives.
  • Another participant explains that the 6 ohm resistor can be removed without changing other voltages and currents in the circuit, but notes that it must be included in the final current analysis due to the current flowing through it.
  • A later reply mentions using Thevenin's theorem after removing the 6 ohm resistor, claiming it to be a fast method for finding the current.
  • Another participant introduces the superposition method as a potentially faster approach, provided the sources are independent, detailing the steps to compute the current through different configurations of the circuit.
  • There is a question raised about whether the short-circuiting of the 6 ohm resistor during Rth calculation indicates that it could be removed from the circuit.
  • Participants inquire about other circuit examples where components can be removed without affecting the analysis, indicating a desire for broader application of these concepts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the fastest method to analyze the circuit, with some favoring equation writing and others proposing Thevenin's theorem or superposition. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the absolute quickest method and the implications of removing the 6 ohm resistor.

Contextual Notes

There are assumptions regarding the independence of sources in the superposition method, and the discussion does not resolve whether the removal of the 6 ohm resistor is universally applicable in all circuit analyses.

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Hello guys!

I'm studying Electrical Circuits right now and come to this particular circuit where I need to find the current I, take a look:
circuit.jpg


I'm able to find it, it is not hard at all. But what I would like to know are these two things:

1. What do you think is the fastest way to do it? (I need to do it as fast as possible).
2. Is it true that removing the 6 ohm resistor doesn't change the circuit? I have been told it, but I can't see it. Could anyone explain this to me?

Sorry if these are too simple for you! :) Thanks
 
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(1) I think you just need to write a series of equations for the node voltages and currents and solve them. I don't see a quicker way.

(2) Since the 6 ohm resistor is connected across the two supplies, its presence or absence doesn't change the other voltages and currents. So you can remove it, analyze the rest of the circuit, and then put it back in. However, there is current flowing through the 6 ohm resistor, so it needs to be included in the final current analysis.
 
phyzguy said:
(1) I think you just need to write a series of equations for the node voltages and currents and solve them. I don't see a quicker way.

(2) Since the 6 ohm resistor is connected across the two supplies, its presence or absence doesn't change the other voltages and currents. So you can remove it, analyze the rest of the circuit, and then put it back in. However, there is current flowing through the 6 ohm resistor, so it needs to be included in the final current analysis.

Thanks. After removing the 6 ohm resistor I solve the problem using thevenin. Since I was interested only in the current I, I believe that is the fastest way. Vth could be found really fast, just some voltage divider. Do you guys think there's a faster way in doing it?

Well, thanks for the answer about the 6 ohm resistor. That helped. Also when you are calculating Rth and you substitute the voltage sources with a short the 6 ohm is short circuited to ground and is out of the circuit. Is that a sign that the resistor could be removed?

Do you guys have any other examples of circuits that would become way easier to solve if one could see that there's some components that could be removed without changing the analysis you are trying to do?
 
Removing the 6 ohm resistor does not change the current i as depicted in your image.

The other, perhaps faster, approach is to use superposition:
let the right-hand source be a short (V = 0) & compute i = i1.
Then restore that source but let the left-hand source be a short & compute i = i2.
The final current i = i1 + i2.

This works provided the sources are not dependent on another in any way.
 

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