Divergence of electric field and charge density

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The divergence of an electric field at a point is directly proportional to the charge density at that point, according to Gauss's Law. While some participants argue that divergence relates to the rate of change with distance, others clarify that it involves a specific combination of partial derivatives. The divergence of the electric field is zero except at the location of a point charge, where it becomes singular. The discussion emphasizes that divergence reflects a source-sink relationship, indicating the net flux of the electric field through a differential volume. Understanding divergence is crucial for accurately interpreting electric fields and charge distributions.
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The divergence of electric field at a point is proportional to the charge density at the point. Divergence is the rate of change with distance, the rate of change of electric field due to a distant charge is not zero, so how can it be said that the divergence at a point depends only on the charge density there?
 
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vin300 said:
Divergence is the rate of change with distance

No, the divergence is a particular combination of partial derivatives. You should compute the divergence of the electric field of a point charge yourself. You'll find that it is zero except at the position of the charge, where it is singular.
 
Divergence is not about the rate of change with distance.
 
vin300 said:
The divergence of electric field at a point is proportional to the charge density at the point. Divergence is the rate of change with distance, the rate of change of electric field due to a distant charge is not zero, so how can it be said that the divergence at a point depends only on the charge density there?

The_Duck said:
No, the divergence is a particular combination of partial derivatives. You should compute the divergence of the electric field of a point charge yourself. You'll find that it is zero except at the position of the charge, where it is singular.

Leland said:
Divergence is not about the rate of change with distance.

i don't know if i agree with you guys (Duck and Leland). divergence is about rate of change with distance. it is about how rapidly the field strength changes with distance outward from the point where the charge density is.

divergence is essentially a microscopic version of Gauss's Law. and Gauss's Law works only for inverse-square fields and it gives you the amount of charge contained in the volume surrounded by a closed surface. then squeeze that volume and closed surface down to a teeny-little differential volume. then the field diverging out of that differential volume is equal to the teeny charge contained inside which is the charge density times the teeny differential volume.
 
rbj, I agree with your definition, but the way I interpret it your definition is quite different from 'rate of change with distance'. The word 'outward' is the key.
 
Isn't divergence defined as the difference between total flux (or field strength) coming out of a volume versus flux (or field strength) going into it? (a source-sink relationship)
 
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