Diving board with two supports and torque due to diver

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The discussion centers on calculating the forces exerted by two supports on a diving board when a diver stands at its end. The board is 5.0 m long, weighs 53 kg, and the diver weighs 64 kg. The user initially struggles with torque equations but eventually finds success by using different axes of rotation for calculations. By applying clockwise and counter-clockwise torque principles, the user confirms that the left support force is 2.17 kN downwards and the right support force is 3.31 kN upwards. Careful setup of force diagrams is emphasized for accurate results.
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Homework Statement


A uniform diving board, of length 5.0 m and mass 53 kg, is supported at two points; one support is located 3.4 m from the end of the board and the second is at 4.6 m from the end (see the figure below). What are the forces acting on the board due to the two supports when a diver of mass 64 kg stands at the end of the board over the water? Assume that these forces are vertical. [Hint: In this problem, consider using two different torque equations about different rotation axes. This may help you determine the directions of the two forces.]

http://www.webassign.net/grr/chapter-08/fig-019.gif

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


N1 is the left support and N2 is the left support.
(sigma)(Torque)= N1-N2-We-Wp then since the right support = o since it is the axis of rotation I solve accordingly for the left support force :

1.2N1=2.1We+4.6Wp
N1=(2.1(53)(9.8)+4.6(64)(9.8))/1.2
N1= 3313.21N or 3.313kN

I have tried taking the left support to be the axis of rotation and solved accordingly. I always end up with the answer that is correct for the other support(I have the answers from webassign but I never understood it the first time through and I am reviewing for a test) The answer ends up being 2.17 kN for the left support downwards and 3.31kN for the right support upwards. What am I doing wrong and why do I get the answer for the other support? Is it just coincidence? After I find the correct force for the one I know I can just take the summation of the forces and subtract to get the force acting on the other support.
 
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Homework Statement


A uniform diving board, of length 5.0 m and mass 53 kg, is supported at two points; one support is located 3.4 m from the end of the board and the second is at 4.6 m from the end (see the figure below). What are the forces acting on the board due to the two supports when a diver of mass 64 kg stands at the end of the board over the water? Assume that these forces are vertical. [Hint: In this problem, consider using two different torque equations about different rotation axes. This may help you determine the directions of the two forces.]

http://www.webassign.net/grr/chapter-08/fig-019.gif

Homework Equations


formula derived from image and question


The Attempt at a Solution


N1 is the left support and N2 is the left support.
(sigma)(Torque)= N1-N2-We-Wp then since the right support = o since it is the axis of rotation I solve accordingly for the left support force :

1.2N1=2.1We+4.6Wp
N1=(2.1(53)(9.8)+4.6(64)(9.8))/1.2
N1= 3313.21N or 3.313kN

I have tried taking the left support to be the axis of rotation and solved accordingly. I always end up with the answer that is correct for the other support(I have the answers from webassign but I never understood it the first time through and I am reviewing for a test) The answer ends up being 2.17 kN for the left support downwards and 3.31kN for the right support upwards. What am I doing wrong and why do I get the answer for the other support? Is it just coincidence? After I find the correct force for the one I know I can just take the summation of the forces and subtract to get the force acting on the other support.

Use the left support (the one farthest away from the diver) as the axis of rotation with torques in the clockwise direction due to the weight of the diver and the weight of the board's center of mass. Then, the counter-clockwise torque will be the right support, equal and opposite in magnitude of the sum of the CW torques. Then, change your axis of rotation to the right support, with a CCW torque due to the left support and the same CW torques.
 
Awesome. Thanks. I will just have to be more careful when I set up the force diagrams I guess. After following the directions you gave I got the right answer no problem.
 
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