Does Bernoulli's Principle Predict Pressure Drop in Constricted Pipe Flow?

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In a closed loop system with a pump and piping, Bernoulli's principle indicates that there is no net pressure drop between the inlet and outlet of the pump if friction is neglected. While a pressure difference occurs at the constriction, it is countered by an equal pressure difference when the flow returns to the original diameter. The discussion emphasizes that "no friction" must include both wall friction and internal fluid friction; otherwise, energy dissipation through eddies can occur. The design of the pipe's transitions into and out of the constriction can influence energy losses. Understanding these dynamics is crucial for accurate predictions of pressure behavior in fluid systems.
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Hello everyone,

Say I have a closed loop comprised of a pump and some piping which connects the inlet of the pump to the outlet of the pump. All of the piping has radius "a," except for a small section, which constricts to radius "b" for a small portion of the line (the inlet and outlet connections are both of radius "a"). Neglecting friction, is there any pressure drop between the inlet and the outlet of the pump if an incompressible fluid were to flow through the system at some flow rate? If so, does Bernoulli's principle in the following fashion account for the magnitude of the pressure drop?

dP = | 1/2*(fluid density)*(flow rate)^2*(1/(pi*a^2)^2-1/(pi*b^2)^2) |

I used (flow rate) = (cross sectional area)*(flow speed) to express the flow speeds, and the fact that the flow rate is the same.

Here it is in TeX form:

\Delta P = \frac{1}{2} \rho Q^2 \left( (\frac{1}{\pi a^2})^2 - (\frac{1}{\pi b^2})^2 \right)

Thanks for your help and time,
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Without any friction, there is no pressure drop between the two sides of the pump (and in an ideal system you don't need a pump at all to keep it flowing). There is a pressure difference where the cross-section changes, but the same pressure difference (in the opposite direction) occurs where the cross-section changes back.
 
I think you need to be clear that "no friction" means not only no friction at the pipe wall, but also no friction between the fluid and itself. Otherwise the flow through the restriction will dissipate some energy by creating eddies in the flow, which would appear as heat and noise. The more gradual the approach to and exit from the restriction is, the lower these losses would be.
 
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