Does Current Flow Misrepresent How Charge Moves?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of electric current, exploring its definition, representation, and the implications of describing it as a "flow" of charge. Participants examine whether the terminology used to describe current accurately reflects the underlying physics, including considerations of charge density fields and the distinction between current and charge movement.

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  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the traditional definition of current as merely a flow of charge, suggesting that there may be additional complexities, such as the role of charge density fields.
  • Another participant critiques the phrase "current flow," arguing that it may be grammatically incorrect and that specifying direction is more useful.
  • A suggestion is made to consider a microscopic view of electric current to enhance understanding.
  • There is a consideration of whether the terminology surrounding current might often be conflated with discussions about charge itself, particularly in contexts involving different charge carriers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the terminology and conceptualization of current, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus on the best way to describe or understand current.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the nature of current and charge movement are not fully explored, and there may be limitations in the definitions used by participants that could affect the clarity of the discussion.

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The idea of current has been presented to me so many different ways I thought id try and find out a little more into what exactly is current.

Most places refer to a flow of charge as a current, seems good to me, but - I heard the current may flow outside the wire in... I want to say charge desnty fields but don't quote me on that... Is this is case? if so how?

Secondly the concept of "current flowing" seems to me very strage - if current = \frac{\delta q}{\delta t} surely this implies the "current flow" people speak of is : \frac{\delta^2 q}{\delta^2 t} ?

Thank you for your help.
 
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I can't answer the first question, but as to current flow verses current, the former is just bad grammar. it can be useful to specify the direction which the current is in.

this probably comes from the usual way people are introduced to current, as one of three objects in Ohm / Kirchoff Laws. often, an understanding that electrical current is a flow of electrons comes after the basic formulae, and after we have learned to talk about it.
 
Would a Microscopic View of Electric current be more helpful?

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I will defiately be more careful as to "current flow" in the future in terms of the model shown I assume this is the exact same for positive charge carriers? Not in a metal but I remember reading they do exist (Ice perhaps it was?).

Do we perhaps talk about current too often when we really mean to speak of the charge?
 

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