Does Magnetic Field (=/need) electron spin + movement of charge?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the relationship between magnetic fields, electron spin, and the movement of charge. Participants explore whether a magnetic field requires both spin and charge movement, and they delve into the nature of charge and its implications in physics.

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that a magnetic field requires either particle spin or movement of charge, or both.
  • It is noted that protons and neutrons also have spin and can create magnetic fields.
  • One participant emphasizes that the motion of charge is fundamental to the existence of a magnetic field, mentioning various types of motion (linear, rotational, vibration).
  • Another participant expresses confusion about the nature of charge and its relationship to magnetic fields, describing it as a phenomenon that exists as a property of nature.
  • There is a discussion about the invisibility of the magnetic field and how it becomes apparent only through the motion of charge.
  • One participant questions the practical conversion of electric energy into magnetic energy, suggesting that charge remains constant regardless of motion.
  • A later reply acknowledges that while some questions were clarified, new questions arose, indicating ongoing uncertainty.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the necessity of spin and charge movement for magnetic fields, with no consensus reached on the specifics of these relationships. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Some statements reflect assumptions about the nature of charge and magnetic fields that may not be universally accepted. The discussion includes vague questions and interpretations that could lead to different understandings.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring the fundamentals of electromagnetism, the nature of charge, and the concept of spin in particle physics.

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Does Magnetic Field (=/need) electron spin + movement of charge?
A proton can create a magnetic field too, but does it have spins as well? Hmm super confused.

What is a spin?
 
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hongiddong said:
Does Magnetic Field (=/need) electron spin + movement of charge?

You need either particle (not necessarily an electron) spin or movement of charge, or both.

A proton can create a magnetic field too, but does it have spins as well?

Yes. So do neutrons. So do most other elementary particles.

What is a spin?

That's a very general or vague question. Can you ask us a more specific one, or explain what you're looking for? Otherwise you will get all kinds of answers depending on how different people interpret it.

Maybe you need to start by reading a general source like

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spin_(physics)

and then ask questions about specific things in it.
 
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For magnetic field ...''motion of charge'' is heart of magnetic field...
Either
Linear Motion
Rotational motion
Vibration
Or
Mix Motion..Because this motion of charge make unhidden of magnetic property.
 
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It is weird that the movement of charge cause this invisible field. A charge is weird too; it is a phenomena, based on our observation, that just exists as a property of nature. Physic concepts sometimes get me into an outer body state of mind... Thanks for the inputs!
 
hongiddong said:
It is weird that the movement of charge cause this invisible field. A charge is weird too; it is a phenomena, based on our observation, that just exists as a property of nature. Physic concepts sometimes get me into an outer body state of mind... Thanks for the inputs!

Welcome...
It's weird...
More special y it's not generating...
But it is always present there with charge...
Only motion make it visible due to field inertia...

If magnetic field come from electric field then...electric field or energy will be convert into magnetic Energy...so this not happen practically.

Charge Q stay Q...even if motion...or not motion...

What you think abut on above statements?
 
Your above statements definitely helped clarify some questions, but it led to even more questions lol. However, I am now satisfied at leaving the questions I have as questions.
 

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