Doppler effect and how it affects the light spectrum

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the Doppler effect as it pertains to the light spectrum emitted by moving bodies, particularly in the context of astronomy. Participants explore how to distinguish between the original spectrum of light and the shifts caused by the Doppler effect.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about how the Doppler effect can be separated from the original spectrum of light, questioning whether the observed color is a mix of the original and shifted colors.
  • Another participant explains that spectra contain recognizable features, such as emission and absorption lines, which are determined by atomic physics and remain consistent across the universe.
  • A participant acknowledges the importance of the change in the relative position of spectral lines for different elements in understanding the Doppler effect.
  • Further questions arise about how spectral lines from different elements are 'scrambled' and subsequently differentiated in a single light beam.
  • One participant expresses concern about potentially doing the questioner's homework while also referencing the use of prisms in understanding light behavior.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the fundamental aspects of spectral lines and their significance in identifying elements, but the discussion includes multiple questions and uncertainties regarding the separation of original and shifted colors and the differentiation of spectral lines.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the specific mechanisms of how the Doppler effect interacts with the original spectrum and the process of differentiating spectral lines from multiple elements in a single light source.

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Looking for a beginners explanation to the following question:

How is Doppler effect separated from the original spectrum of light emanating from a moving body (in astronomy or other physics branches)?

If the question does not make sense, here is the reasoning to ask it:

If a certain color is emanating from a moving body, then it is shifted to red or to blue, according to the speed and relative direction of that body. Does this mean that the observed color is a 'scrambled' signal of both its original color and its shifted color? How are these 2 original causes separated back into their original values?

I assume that i did not take into account in my question the difference between wave frequency and wave length and that is perhaps important in considering the answer?
 
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Good question. Spectra have recognizable features. They have emission lines and absorbsion lines with frequencies determined by atomic physics. We know that no matter where we are in the universe, the atomic elements there (such as hydrogen) are the same as here. So, like in the picture below, it becomes intuitively obvious that the spectrum has been shifted.

Does that answer your question?

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Got it, the change in relative position or pattern of spectral lines of different elements, thanks!
 
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roineust said:
Got it, the change in relative position or pattern of spectral lines of different elements, thanks!

Another question:
How are different elements spectral lines naturally 'scrambled' and then differentiated by observation into each and every element contained in a 'single' light beam emanating from a light source?

This is the type of question that I ask my students in their homework and/or quizzes. Are you sure we are not doing your assignment for you?

Second question: have you ever played with a prism before?

Zz.
 
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