Doppler Effect physics homework

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the Doppler Effect, specifically calculating the frequency of sound heard by an observer in a car moving away from a stationary sound source, which emits a frequency of 875Hz at a temperature of 25.9°C.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the application of the Doppler Effect and its associated equations. Initial confusion about the problem setup and the role of temperature in calculating the speed of sound is noted. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between source frequency, observer speed, and sound speed.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on the correct application of the Doppler Effect formula. There is recognition of the need to evaluate the equation correctly based on the movement of the observer and the source. Some participants express confusion but are encouraged to persist in their understanding.

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Participants mention the importance of significant figures and the correct interpretation of the speed of sound based on temperature. There is acknowledgment of varying levels of familiarity with the topic among participants.

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So a factory whistle emits a sound at 875Hz. The temperature of the air is 25.9oC. What frequency will be heard by an observer in a car traveling at 27m/s away from the source

i know this is a two step problem but i have no idea where to start! anyone lead me in the right direction?
 
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Have you considered the Doppler Effect?
 


i haven't herd of that but I am guessing that's possible...how does that work?
 


thatnewkid said:
i haven't herd of that but I am guessing that's possible...how does that work?
Find the discussion of Doppler effect in your physics textbook, with the equation you can use. Then post back with your attempt at solving the problem.
 


ok ok hold up I am trying it
 


is it 0.36518857142857? i understand what the source velocity is and the initial wavelength frequency is but i think i may have messed up where temperature plays a role
 


Let's use some common sense here. The source frequency is 875Hz. Your result should be in this neighborhood. Higher? Lower? What is your experience watching NASCAR? As the car approaches you what does it sound like? As it goes away what does it sound like? Also: way too many digits--use sig figs.
 


alright so i have f1= 875(v-27/v+vs)

how do i find the speed of the source with the temperature?

v=speed of wave
vo=speed of observer
vs=speed of source
f=frequency at source
f'=frequency observed by observer.
 
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no nm i think i got it is it 811.75Hz?
 
  • #11


You need to show your work. How did you arrive at the speed of sound at 25.9C?
 
  • #12


V of sound = 331 + .6(temp)=331 + .6(25.9)=346.54m/s

f = actual f (v - v of observer/ v+ v of source)
f= 875(346.54/346.54 +27)
f= 811.75Hz
 
  • #13


Your speed of sound looks right. Your result does not. Your v of source should be zero. Your v of observer is 27m/s
 
  • #14


ok i just got so confused, help me out with what your trying to get at? (sorry i may seem dumb but i haven't done this in a long time and I am trying to learn it again to prepare for my final)
 
  • #15


You are so close, hang in there!

You correctly stated:
thatnewkid said:
f = actual f (v - v of observer/ v+ v of source)

but this was wrong:
f= 875(346.54/346.54 +27)

Just evaluate the equation with "v of observer" = 27m/s and "v of source" with 0m/s
 
  • #16


so...

875(346.54-27/346.54 + 0)=

806.826Hz?
 
  • #17


Good work by you. Remember to watch your signs based on how the source/observer is moving. I am not a significant digit maniac, but I think you should go with 807Hz.
 

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