What Are the Limits of Integration for a Double Integral in a Triangular Region?

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The discussion focuses on determining the limits of integration for a double integral of y^3 over a triangular region defined by the vertices (0,0), (1,2), and (0,3). The correct limits for the outer integral are from 0 to 1 for x, while y ranges from the line y=2x to y=3-x for each x value. An alternative approach using y as the outer integral is also discussed, requiring separate integrals for y values below and above 2. The area of the triangle can be verified using basic geometric formulas. Clarifications were made regarding the correct interpretation of the triangular region and the limits of integration.
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Double integral of y^3, where D is the triangular region with vertices (0,0), (1,2), and (0,3). I can't figure out what the limits are.

D={(x,y)|0<=x<=3...is this even half way right?
 
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e. g. {0<x<1, 2x<y<-x+3}
 
Just add y^3 into the double integral and evaluate it. Keep in mind for simple structures like a triangle you can verify that your answer is correct simply but using trigonometric formulas for area.

In this case area of a triangle is= \frac{(b*h)}{2}=\frac{3*1}{2}
 
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Tony11235 said:
Double integral of y^3, where D is the triangular region with vertices (0,0), (1,2), and (0,3). I can't figure out what the limits are.

D={(x,y)|0<=x<=3...is this even half way right?

No, because the "3" in (0, 3) is a y-value not x. The first thing you should do is draw a picture- like cronxeh did. One side of the triangle is the line x= 0 (from (0,0) to (0,3)). It should be easy to see that the line from (0,0) to (1,2) is y= 2x (A line through (0,0) is always of the form y= mx and m= 2 makes y= 2(1)= 2. If you don't see that you can still calculate that the slope is \frac{2-0}{1-0}= 2. )
For the line from (0,3) to (1,2), you can argue that the equation of a line is always of the form y- y0= m(x- x0). m= \frac{2-3}{1-0}= -1. Taking (x0,y0) to be (0, 3), that gives
y- 3= 1(x-0) or y= x+ 3. If you take (x0,y0) to be (1, 2) instead, you get y- 2= 1(x- 1) which reduces to y= x+ 3 also.

Now, since x can range from 0 to 2, the "outer integral" will be \int_0^3 dx. For every x, y ranges from the lower of the two lines (the one from (0,0) to (1,2)), which is y= 2x, to the higher (the one from (0,3) to (1,2)), which is y= -x+ 3 or, if you prefer, y= 3- x. The "inner integral" will be \int_{y= 2x}^{3-x} dy.

Since the integrand is y3, the integral is
\int_{x=0}^2\int_{y= 2x}^{3-x} y^3 dy dx.
 
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You could, by the way, do this "the other way around" (I wouldn't recommend it here- it's much more complicated. My point is to show how you can get the limits of integration.)

Overall, y ranges from 0 to 3. If we choose to use the y integral as the "outer integral", the limits would be from 0 to 3. For each y, the left sides is always x= 0 and so the lower limit for the "inner integral" is x= 0. However, there are two different lines that make up the right side: y= 2x and y= 3-x or, since we are using x as the variable for the inner integral and the limits of the inner integral cannot depend on x, x= (1/2)y and x= 3- y. Which of those we use as the upper depends on what y is. If y< 2, the right side is x= (1/2)y and if y> 2, the right side is x= 3- y. The simplest thing to do is to do that as two separate integrals and add them:
\int_{y=0}^2\int_{x=0}^{\frac{y}{2}}y^3 dxdy+ \int_{y=2}^3\int_{x=0}^{3-y}y^3dxdy.
 
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Thanks. I really didn't think about it enough.
 
is there a #1 answer rating?
 
Why does x range from 0 to 2 and why does this give the outer integral from 0 to 3?
 
Rubik said:
Why does x range from 0 to 2 and why does this give the outer integral from 0 to 3?
No doubt, that was a typo (In post #4).

The limits of integration for x should be from 0 to 1.
 
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