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Drugs are bad M'kay?

  1. Jun 10, 2004 #21
    I think drugs are ok if used for recreational use. I frequently use marijuana and alcohol (every weekend in fact). I'm considering hallucinogenic mushrooms. I think lsd, and ecstasy are ok for recreation too (although I personally haven't tried yet). I am against hard drugs though, like heroin, crack, meth, cocaine, ect. I never drink or smoke alone. I don't have a family I abuse. I don't have kids that starve so I can feed my habit. I am just a teenager having fun on weekends. I think if one is against drugs, that's cool. They don't have to do drugs. I get angry about the war on drugs. It is total bull****. Why make pot so illegal, it's a victimless crime. I would almost go through my massive stack of porn to find a certain issue of Playboy for this (I'm one of the ppl that actually read Playboy, lol). There was an article about the war on drugs. A law was passed so that police can search homes at any hour that were suspected of manufacturing drugs. It stated that the police would get addresses wrong quite frequently. It spoke of an incident where the police raided the wrong house in the middle of the night. They busted down a bedroom door and scared a man with a loaded gun. Not knowing it was police, he raised the gun. The police shot him dead in his bed. Just another innocent victim in this bull**** war on drugs.
    The issue of Playboy is probably from '01 or '02.
  2. Jun 16, 2004 #22
    I would tend to agree with servant's views that all these various methods we use are all attempts to achieve the same thing. However, I would disagree that Jesus Christ is the one "correct" way of achieveing it. What makes you so sure of this? [Please pause to consider your answer.] Are you sure in your heart? If so, are you saying hearts can't be deceived? Are you sure in your brain? Cannot brains, too, be deceived? How do we not know that Satan succeeded in overthrowing God and banished God to a prison (Hell) and commanded all of God's children to worship him instead of indulging in the pleasures of life which God had granted them? Of course, I'm not proposing that this is true, it's just something for the open-minded to think about and the closed-minded to condemn me for saying.

    Regardless of God, Satan, Allah, Buddha, Zeus, whoever you believe in, there is only one thing we can truly be sure of and that is those things which are good. I believe that all people possess the ability to discern right from wrong. The things we personally believe to be true and good, we must pursue, and nothing, not even God, should stand in your way of that. If you believe with all your heart that you were born to smoke crack, then by all means do it and be happy. But I don't think that anyone who smokes crack truly believes that, they are held captive by it and they know it. It destroys them and everyone around them.

    One last remark before I call it quits, and I'm going to be vague here for legal reasons, by concealing my references to my own personal experience. One smokes marijuana on a regular basis, and finds that it alters not his own beliefs or judgment. It alters not his perception of reality, and it alters not his ability to reason. In doing so, it opens his mind to experiencing things in a way different from which he is used to. This is not a good thing always, but it does allow him to bring perspective to the way he viewed things while sober. To add to this, he also finds that taking mushrooms at times of mental confusion, grants him great enlightenment. When troubled and confused as to which path to take, mushrooms are found to be a highly enjoyable experience with friends. However, before the effect wears off, one should confine himself alone in a room for at least 2 hours, and meditate under the effect of the mushrooms. Using the perspective the drug can bring, it is possible to achieve clarity that has changed his life each time he has done it (4 times so far). It is, however, important not to abuse this method, as such a perspective can be dangerous. One must also not consume addictive drugs. I do not drink alcohol, I do not smoke cigarettes, I do not take any kind of regular medical supplements, I have never consumed crack, heroine, LSD, MDMA, methamphetamine, or any other such drug.
  3. Jun 24, 2004 #23


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    Cool !

    So were Odysseus' (Ulysses) men really turned into swine, or were they just on a bad trip (I think she gave them food or drink before turning them into pigs) ? I imagine this is the same Circe' ...
  4. Jun 28, 2004 #24
    Drugs like everything else in existence has a purpose. Recreation is not the purpose of any drug it is just humanities greed for pleasure and escape from reality that has created this trend.
  5. Jun 28, 2004 #25

    I just want to say that you have made an excellent post.
  6. Jun 28, 2004 #26
    some drugs are bad
    some are mostly harmless
  7. Jul 10, 2004 #27
    You can only judge this on what you think yourself. If you genuinely believe that taking drugs will get you somewhere then go ahead but I personally think you have to be stupid to take them as in my opinion they harm mind, body and if you believe in it soul.
  8. Jul 12, 2004 #28

    I hope that you never get sick or grow old, such that you need drugs for your condition. If so, you will have to consider yourself stupid, won't you.

    You say that, in your opinion, drugs harm mind, body, and, if he believes in it, soul? Why do you believe that drugs harm the soul only if he believes in a soul? Doesn't your belief count?
  9. Jul 13, 2004 #29
    I meant the type of drugs that are usually illegal. Such as LSD, cocaine etc. I did not mean medicinal drugs. These are perfectly ok.

    No, I wanted to expand my post to athiests as well as thiests and agnostics. If I said mind, body and soul I would get told that they don't believe in a religion, therefore my post is wrong. So to get round it I said mind, body and if you believe in it soul to apply to everyone. In my opinion drugs will harm the soul even if the person doesn't believe in the soul etc. but to that person it wouldn't matter as they don't believe it exists. I was just being diplomatic ok?
  10. Jul 13, 2004 #30
    I gather from this that you eat only the most healthy of food, and do the utmost in healthy exercise.

    Surely you would never eat junk food, or do anything unhealthy, ever, under any circumstances. Right? If your diet were ever less than the utmost in health food, wouldn't you have to be stupid to eat such things, as do they not in your opinion harm mind, body, and soul?

    Please do not attempt to justify ever breaching such an important rule, as any infraction at all is identical to taking drugs, the difference being at most a slight difference in degree.
  11. Jul 13, 2004 #31
    I admire your common sense, its a pity alot of people dont seem to able to trust in their own judgement. I was reading a thread on this forum only the other day where someone had posted 'we shouldnt do drugs because buddah didnt approve of them' i mean really grow up and develop a mind of your own for gods sake.
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